Can you help …..?

[A. G. Maisey]

To a degree I do agree with you Gustav, there are elements of similarity in the greneng posted & in Jensen's photos of keris attributed to Banten, in fact, Jensen was the reference I looked at after Haryoguritno, but the variations in execution do not permit me to name this posted greneng as Banten.

I might be wrong, or at least, too demanding, but for me, this posted greneng is still outside the Banten matrix.

Perhaps in the hand, it might be more convincing.

[Gustav]

It is not featured in Jensens book, I guess it is in Krisdisk, chapter Bali, I cannot check at the moment. Here an even smaller picture of the entire Keris.

[A. G. Maisey]

Agreed, similar, but from what i am able to see in these tiny images, I simply cannot put Amuk's photo into the same box as the keris in your image, Gustav, nor the Jensen Banten images.

I read Amuk's request as a request to point him in the direction of the classification of keris that had a particular style of greneng, and I cannot do that from such a tiny image, when we look at a greneng, & some other keris characteristics, we look at very particular detail, and a small, poor image just does not give the required detail. Still if Amuk is only looking for similarity, then maybe Banten could be sufficient for him.

Banten of course is Sunda, so as I said in an earlier post, we need to start thinking in a different direction.

Ultimately it all comes down to the difficulty of only seeing something as a picture, in the hand we can often form a different opinion.

[Gustav]

Alan, this is the same Keris.