Authenticity Of Keris

[Ria]

Hi all,

It appeared my name had been mentioned by Sepang and Sakthi777 in this topic, however I did not know, how this topic will be end up.

Sepang you wrote:
"Look at the Muzium Siber, www.kerisjawa.tk <http://www.kerisjawa.tk>, etc, you can see some image about Keris Budho. But, if I ask them, they can't give a guarantee that their keris is old"

Sakhti777 you wrote:
"Look at that. Thanks Sepang. Sure, a similar quality of blade as posted by Ria for his k.buda. Try undress the warangan, then you would see the reality"

If you considered my keris is not a such of keris buda, please be my guest! Both of you had a full right to call whatever you like about my keris! But, I would like to bring your attention, I'm very, very impressed as what Marto Suwignyo had wrote on his post, which I think he is giving a very "constructive parameters" to analyse the keris in depth. So, Sepang and Sakhti777, any specific parameter you had in mind to analyse the keris buda?

Regard,
Ria

[DhenTal]

If I lok arround at the thread, Ria posted many photos of kriss too. Many piece is new, but many kriss that Ria called old kriss, actualy is new piece too. Like a Jalak Budo in his hpage. It is a real new kriss. In this case, shakti777 more correctly to give opinion.

[Sepang]

Oh... Ria , try to ask to Bambang Irian. Order him to go to Kediri, Madiun, Malang, Sumenep (East Java) or Jogja in order to know how the blacksmith make it. So, beware if you said that your keris called Jalak Buda. It can be just Putran.

Although I just look by photos, but I was trying to understanding about the Iron, Pasikutan ........ and Chi (he..he..). My conclusion, your keris just a putran. The iron diffrent between real old keris buda with yours. The keris buda have a hard iron wave with the unripe iron. But your iron keriss look so ripe with more modern technique metal handiwork. So, the raw your keris can be made from old keris.

.... But, I more like with DhenTal opinion about kerisses..., so to the point

[nechesh]

Originally Posted by Sepang

.... But, I more like with DhenTal opinion about kerisses..., so to the point

Sepang, i am afraid i must diagree with you here. DhenTal is not "to the point" at all. He is merely passing judgement without giving any real criteria for his assessments. This is not to say he is incorrect. However, it is not at all helpful to the understanding of the matter to simply condemn without telling us why. I do understand that language is a bit of a problem here, but i would like to hear more reasons for these statements.
Also DhenTal, i am curious what you think about the two examples that are posted in Alan Maisey's article. Are these also fakes?

[Sepang]

Sorry nechesh, I don't mean like that .
I just try to give DhenTal "the praise" about his opinion with no reason which clear
I'm think so, that he use the language to give a problem here... like ... :

DhenTal said, "..... Sepang kriss, although look like a nice piece, but I consider with damascan. It can be made by now. And it look so whole..."
.... or aother he said...

My question..., how can I made new the pamor (damascan) in my old kerisses ? May be DhenTal is a smart blacksmith so that he can know, which the pamor is made by now or old

So... DhenTal, please give us your reason about your statements

[Megantoro]

First of all i would like to thank to the vikingsword forum, i realy appreciate to this forum, it is realy great forum.

The second, still in this page, Sepang bring my name here and order me to go to some places that he/she mention above.
I never know this man/woman, never met him/her, suddenly order me (Bambang Irian) to go to some places like he/she mention.

How dare you are sepang, order me to go to some places for What....????
I don't know you, for what i should follow your order, it is really-really ridicolous.

I really-really need your explanation about this, but do not use this honor forum, here bellow my e-mail bambang_irian@yahoo.com

Thank very much forum for giving me chance to use this page.

Bambang Irian, Jogjakarta. Indonesia.

[Andrew]

Originally Posted by Megantoro

How dare you are sepang, order me to go to some places for What....????
I don't know you, for what i should follow your order, it is really-really ridicolous.

I really-really need your explanation about this, but do not use this honor forum, here bellow my e-mail bambang_irian@yahoo.com

Thank very much forum for giving me chance to use this page.

Bambang Irian, Jogjakarta. Indonesia.

Welcome to the forum, Bambang Irian. I look forward to reading your substantive posts and having you contribute your base of knowlege and experience to the forum.

You are quite correct in requesting that Sepang and you correspond via email. I request that both of you (Sepang, are you listening?) not continue this here.

If you are unable to respect this request, I will take more formal action.

Andrew