Qama

Flavio · 10th July 2006, 10:58 PM

Hello, this kind of piece is new for me but, well, i like it

Could you give me informations about this kind of sword? Ideas on the age? and the mark on the blade? and the silver (?) koftagiri? Thank you very much.

Rivkin · 11th July 2006, 03:42 AM

I would say Azerbaijan, Persian or not, something to south east from Tbilisi for certain.
Timeframe - I would need better picture of the koftgari.

Flavio · 11th July 2006, 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Rivkin

I would say Azerbaijan, Persian or not, something to south east from Tbilisi for certain.
Timeframe - I would need better picture of the koftgari.

Hello Rivkin, thank you very much. Here are some other pictures that i hope are better and clearer, but the koftagiri isn't so good

Please, could you also explain me, if it's possible, the difference between the qama and the kindjal? Thank you very much

Rivkin · 11th July 2006, 10:01 PM

Hm, I would say late XIXth century, but can't be sure.
Kindjal is a russian word, supposedly from arabic khanjar; qama is supposedly a farsi word, however turkish or even alanic origin is also possible. First is used since russian is a lingua franca in caucases. Second is used since such word (qama) exists in most caucasian languages; it is also used in Iran. They both describe the same object.

Flavio · 11th July 2006, 10:22 PM

Thank you very much Rivkin, if i'm not too boring

, can i ask you what the koftagiri represent? Thank you again

Flavio · 14th July 2006, 11:12 PM

Could, please, someone enlight me on the meaning of the koftagiri? Thank you very much and sorry for my ignorance

ariel · 15th July 2006, 03:10 AM

"Tree of Life" was a popular islamic symbol. Is it what we see here?

Flavio · 15th July 2006, 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by ariel

"Tree of Life" was a popular islamic symbol. Is it what we see here?

Thank you Ariel, in the inner part we see a writing or only a decoration (i mean like tuluth)?

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11th July 2006, 03:42 AM	#2
Rivkin Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 655	I would say Azerbaijan, Persian or not, something to south east from Tbilisi for certain. Timeframe - I would need better picture of the koftgari.

11th July 2006, 10:01 PM	#4
Rivkin Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 655	Hm, I would say late XIXth century, but can't be sure. Kindjal is a russian word, supposedly from arabic khanjar; qama is supposedly a farsi word, however turkish or even alanic origin is also possible. First is used since russian is a lingua franca in caucases. Second is used since such word (qama) exists in most caucasian languages; it is also used in Iran. They both describe the same object.

11th July 2006, 10:22 PM	#5
Flavio Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Italia Posts: 1,243	Thank you very much Rivkin, if i'm not too boring , can i ask you what the koftagiri represent? Thank you again

14th July 2006, 11:12 PM	#6
Flavio Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Italia Posts: 1,243	Could, please, someone enlight me on the meaning of the koftagiri? Thank you very much and sorry for my ignorance

15th July 2006, 03:10 AM	#7
ariel Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Ann Arbor, MI Posts: 5,503	"Tree of Life" was a popular islamic symbol. Is it what we see here?