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|  2nd November 2023, 05:41 PM | #2 | 
| Keris forum moderator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Nova Scotia 
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			Hi Paul. I have never seen this pamor before, but some variation of it may indeed be old and "legit". But yes, this does appear to me a current era keris. Kagok is a name that is applied to a certain form of Javanese ladrang (formal) wrongko. This is indeed a formal variety of Madurese wrongko, but i have not seen the name applied to Madurese wrongko yet. Though it is quite possibly correct. Interestingly the word seems to mean "clumsy" (Javanese) or "awkward" (Sundanese).
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