![]()  | 
	
| 
			
			 | 
		#1 | 
| 
			
			 Member 
			
			
			
			Join Date: Apr 2020 
				
				
				
					Posts: 283
				 
				
				
				
				
				 | 
	
	
	
		
		
			
			 
			
			Hello friends, 
		
		
		
			Sharing with you a battle-damaged barung that ultimately bacame a war trophy (from a siege- which I cannot disclose in Mindanao). Short histoty: Originally from a Moro warrior who was eventually killed (prior to the mindanao skirmish). Taken by a soldier as a war booty and used it as his personal blade. A bullet struck this barung, hence, the damage. A barung with a 15.5" blade/ over-all length of 20.5". Hilt: carabao horn with 'ivory' beak design in its pommel. A part of me tells me to have the barung restored (and lose all the traits it had in that Mindanao siege) and another part of me wants to leave it as is- with the history/story intact. what do you think? Kind regards Yves  | 
| 
		 | 
	
	
	
		
		
		
		
			 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
	 | 
| 
			
			 | 
		#2 | 
| 
			
			 Member 
			
			
			
				
			
			Join Date: Oct 2018 
				
				
				
					Posts: 703
				 
				
				
				
				
				 | 
	
	
	
		
		
			
			 
			
			Depends on your intended purpose. If you intend to display it and highlight the provenance, best to leave it as is. 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	Besides, restoring this would greatly reduce the blade mass due to re-profiling.  | 
| 
		 | 
	
	
	
		
		
		
		
			 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
	 | 
| 
			
			 | 
		#3 | 
| 
			
			 Member 
			
			
			
				
			
			Join Date: Jun 2015 
				Location: Minneapolis,MN 
				
				
					Posts: 361
				 
				
				
				
				
				 | 
	
	
	
		
		
			
			 | 
| 
		 | 
	
	
	
		
		
		
		
			 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
	 | 
| 
			
			 | 
		#4 | 
| 
			
			 EAAF Staff 
			
			
			
				
			
			Join Date: Dec 2004 
				Location: Louisville, KY 
				
				
					Posts: 7,345
				 
				
				
				
				
				 | 
	
	
	
		
		
			
			 
			
			Normally I'm for restoration, but in this case, I think this is an exception.  Keep it as is for the history and provenance.  Besides, it is beyond good reasonable restoration.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	 | 
| 
		 | 
	
	
	
		
		
		
		
			 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
	 | 
| 
			
			 | 
		#5 | 
| 
			
			 Member 
			
			
			
			Join Date: Apr 2020 
				
				
				
					Posts: 283
				 
				
				
				
				
				 | 
	
	
	
		
		
			
			 
			
			Hi all, 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	Thank u all. I'd keep it that way. I've come to realize that the history/provenance of this blade is much more important as is. Kindest regards, Yves  | 
| 
		 | 
	
	
	
		
		
		
		
			 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
	 | 
| 
			
			 | 
		#6 | 
| 
			
			 Member 
			
			
			
			Join Date: Jul 2006 
				Location: musorian territory 
				
				
					Posts: 476
				 
				
				
				
				
				 | 
	
	
	
		
		
			
			 
			
			you cant really reprofile these asian weapons as for the most part unlike arms from europe and the caucasus they are very rarely fully quenched and tempered even if they are made form imported bards of steel,,  they are mostly just edge quenched or partially quenched giving only a small hardened zone . reprofiling it you may end up with an edge as soft as iron
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	 | 
| 
		 | 
	
	
	
		
		
		
		
			 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
	 | 
| 
			
			 | 
		#7 | 
| 
			
			 EAAF Staff 
			
			
			
				
			
			Join Date: Dec 2004 
				Location: Louisville, KY 
				
				
					Posts: 7,345
				 
				
				
				
				
				 | 
	
	
	
		
		
			
			 
			
			Another good point (like the one on top of my head  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	 ).
		 | 
| 
		 | 
	
	
	
		
		
		
		
			 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
	 | 
| 
			
			 | 
		#8 | 
| 
			
			 Member 
			
			
			
				
			
			Join Date: Dec 2004 
				Location: Ann Arbor, MI 
				
				
					Posts: 5,503
				 
				
				
				
				
				 | 
	
	
	
		
		
			
			 
			
			0.45 was a powerful bugger.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	 | 
| 
		 | 
	
	
	
		
		
		
		
			 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
	 | 
| 
			
			 | 
		#9 | |
| 
			
			 Member 
			
			
			
			Join Date: Apr 2005 
				
				
				
					Posts: 3,255
				 
				
				
				
				
				 | 
	
	
	
		
		
			
			 
			
			Hello Ariel, 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	Quote: 
	
 Damage more likely to be from a rifle. Even more so since this blade got hit when still sheathed... Regards, Kai  | 
|
| 
		 | 
	
	
	
		
		
		
		
			 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
	 | 
| 
			
			 | 
		#10 | 
| 
			
			 Member 
			
			
			
				
			
			Join Date: Dec 2004 
				Location: Ann Arbor, MI 
				
				
					Posts: 5,503
				 
				
				
				
				
				 | 
	
	
	
		
		
			
			 
			
			Do we know when was this barung taken as a trophy? Smith-Wesson 0.45 was issued in 1911, but private purchase was sufficiently popular well before that. 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	No matter what, even if we are talking about the earliest 3-4 years of shooting war, using standard government issue 0.45-70 Gov’t Springfield "Trapdoor" rifle, this damaged barung is interesting not as a weapon per se, but as a part of history. Don't fix it.  | 
| 
		 | 
	
	
	
		
		
		
		
			 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
	 | 
| 
			
			 | 
		#11 | 
| 
			
			 Member 
			
			
			
				
			
			Join Date: May 2014 
				Location: Ireland 
				
				
					Posts: 545
				 
				
				
				
				
				 | 
	
	
	
		
		
			
			 
			
			To fix this would be a travesty. 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	It would be like re casting the liberty bell because it has a crack If only it could talk! Regards Ken  | 
| 
		 | 
	
	
	
		
		
		
		
			 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
	 | 
![]()  | 
	
	
| Thread Tools | Search this Thread | 
| Display Modes | |
		
  | 
	
		
  |