19c Sudanese Sabre?

fernando · 5th March 2022, 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by kronckew

... Just aquired this one...

Which one ?

kronckew · 5th March 2022, 01:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fernando

Which one ?

Was still tweaking/editing photos

Tweaked the stampings ones, is that an ethiopean lion stamp, lettering looks like coptic rather than arabic.

fernando · 5th March 2022, 03:09 PM

Waiting for better photos of the lettering in the blade, when it arrives

kronckew · 5th March 2022, 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by fernando

Waiting for better photos of the lettering in the blade, when it arrives

Wilco.

Looks like it may need a bit of cleaning too. Will use my HDR camera & try for better side lighting to contrast the letters.

Edster · 5th March 2022, 08:32 PM

The last pic has a stamp that looks like an Ethiopian lion, and the lettering in the fuller looks like what has been IDed on other threads as Ethiopian. Could be an Eritrean/Beni Amer adapted Ethiopian military sword.

Ed

kronckew · 5th March 2022, 09:12 PM

Thanks Ed, that confirms my suspicions, and pins down the area better.

ariel · 7th March 2022, 02:37 AM

This is an improvised saber of a respectable age and unquestionably suited for a practical battle use.
When the blade is cleaned we shall be better informed about its origin. Even then we may not know whether it is , say, Ugandan. Somali, Ethiopian , Sudanese etc.
And this is my only hesitation about its value as a legitimate example of a certain tradition. Meanwile it is an unquestionably usable object coming somewhere from a multitude of potential village smithies all along Eastern Africa. It is a legitimate usable weapon, but its historical value is negligible. Currently it is a mix-and-match production the origin and the usage of which are unlikely be ever revealed. Charming, but not of a scientific value.

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5th March 2022, 03:09 PM	#3
fernando (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Portugal Posts: 9,694	Waiting for better photos of the lettering in the blade, when it arrives

5th March 2022, 08:32 PM	#5
Edster Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 418	The last pic has a stamp that looks like an Ethiopian lion, and the lettering in the fuller looks like what has been IDed on other threads as Ethiopian. Could be an Eritrean/Beni Amer adapted Ethiopian military sword. Ed

5th March 2022, 09:12 PM	#6
kronckew Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Room 101, Glos. UK Posts: 4,239	Thanks Ed, that confirms my suspicions, and pins down the area better.

7th March 2022, 02:37 AM	#7
ariel Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Ann Arbor, MI Posts: 5,503	This is an improvised saber of a respectable age and unquestionably suited for a practical battle use. When the blade is cleaned we shall be better informed about its origin. Even then we may not know whether it is , say, Ugandan. Somali, Ethiopian , Sudanese etc. And this is my only hesitation about its value as a legitimate example of a certain tradition. Meanwile it is an unquestionably usable object coming somewhere from a multitude of potential village smithies all along Eastern Africa. It is a legitimate usable weapon, but its historical value is negligible. Currently it is a mix-and-match production the origin and the usage of which are unlikely be ever revealed. Charming, but not of a scientific value.