Mystery sabre

David R · 13th July 2021, 10:28 PM

I will just say WOW and wait for the more informed to post... But yeah, a nice interesting piece whatever it is.

Battara · 14th July 2021, 02:35 AM

I would guess that this is a Javanese pedang. Not only does the hilt look Javanese, but it would explain the Arabic writing, possibly in Jawi.

And yes the letters were acid etched. I recognize the name "Allah" a couple of times on one side of the blade.

mariusgmioc · 14th July 2021, 06:36 AM

It looks Javanese to my eyes but let us see what others have to say.

Sajen · 14th July 2021, 05:26 PM

Sorry Jose and Marius, nothing at this sword looks Javanese to my eyes!

Regards,
Detlef

Rafngard · 14th July 2021, 05:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sajen

Sorry Jose and Marius, nothing at this sword looks Javanese to my eyes!

Regards,
Detlef

Agreed. I've never seen anything from Java like this.
The only thing that I've seen similar is that some modern tourist items have acid etched Arabic on the blades (see attached examples). I believe these are made in Borneo, but occasionally you see this style on something like a modern tourist kujang.

Thanks,
Leif

Yvain · 14th July 2021, 09:39 PM

Well I did not expect it to be such a tricky question!

Regardless of the origin (though it is obviously very important), what was the purpose of this thing in your opinion? Very big tourist souvenir or something else?

And thanks to all of you for your help! 🙂

ausjulius · 16th July 2021, 08:30 AM

very odd sword.. whatever it is its strange.. if somebody can read the etching would help becuse it made have some grammatic clues in it..

maybe its just me but it looks VERY chinese.. the handle with the ring for a tassel.. weird guard.. the sheath. the chape..
maybe from an area with a chinese muslim population.. burma.. yunnan ect

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13th July 2021, 10:28 PM	#1
David R Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 1,120	I will just say WOW and wait for the more informed to post... But yeah, a nice interesting piece whatever it is.

14th July 2021, 02:35 AM	#2
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,280	I would guess that this is a Javanese pedang. Not only does the hilt look Javanese, but it would explain the Arabic writing, possibly in Jawi. And yes the letters were acid etched. I recognize the name "Allah" a couple of times on one side of the blade.

14th July 2021, 06:36 AM	#3
mariusgmioc Member Join Date: Sep 2014 Location: Austria Posts: 1,911	It looks Javanese to my eyes but let us see what others have to say.

14th July 2021, 05:26 PM	#4
Sajen Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Germany, Dortmund Posts: 9,212	Sorry Jose and Marius, nothing at this sword looks Javanese to my eyes! Regards, Detlef

14th July 2021, 09:39 PM	#6
Yvain Member Join Date: May 2017 Location: France Posts: 179	Well I did not expect it to be such a tricky question! Regardless of the origin (though it is obviously very important), what was the purpose of this thing in your opinion? Very big tourist souvenir or something else? And thanks to all of you for your help! 🙂

16th July 2021, 08:30 AM	#7
ausjulius Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: musorian territory Posts: 444	very odd sword.. whatever it is its strange.. if somebody can read the etching would help becuse it made have some grammatic clues in it.. maybe its just me but it looks VERY chinese.. the handle with the ring for a tassel.. weird guard.. the sheath. the chape.. maybe from an area with a chinese muslim population.. burma.. yunnan ect