Katzbalger - request for assistance in identifying blade mark

Reventlov · 7th July 2021, 01:42 PM

There is a cinquedea in the Wallace Collection with a very similar marking. A number of such weapons have also been attributed to Ercole dei Fideli, though not this one in particular.

Cinquedeas are a characteristically Italian style, so everything seems consistent with the mark being the sign of some Italian bladesmith, some of whose products were embellished by other artisans like Fideli, or exported from the country.

https://wallacelive.wallacecollectio...ype=detailView

df1967 · 7th July 2021, 02:55 PM

The possibility that Italian blades came to Germany in this times makes absolutely sense, as vice verse. See this book from the museum in Berlin, 2 German Katzbalger, both blades north Italy…only the Bidenhänder is completely German made. So the trading around 1500 worked even without the European Union…

df1967 · 7th July 2021, 03:01 PM

Two examples of Katzbalger with Italian blades…

df1967 · 7th July 2021, 03:02 PM

Blades north Italy

7th July 2021, 03:01 PM	#3
df1967 Member Join Date: Jan 2021 Location: Germany Posts: 50	Two examples of Katzbalger with Italian blades… Attached Images

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7th July 2021, 01:42 PM	#1
Reventlov Member Join Date: Mar 2016 Posts: 140	There is a cinquedea in the Wallace Collection with a very similar marking. A number of such weapons have also been attributed to Ercole dei Fideli, though not this one in particular. Cinquedeas are a characteristically Italian style, so everything seems consistent with the mark being the sign of some Italian bladesmith, some of whose products were embellished by other artisans like Fideli, or exported from the country. https://wallacelive.wallacecollectio...ype=detailView

7th July 2021, 02:55 PM	#2
df1967 Member Join Date: Jan 2021 Location: Germany Posts: 50	The possibility that Italian blades came to Germany in this times makes absolutely sense, as vice verse. See this book from the museum in Berlin, 2 German Katzbalger, both blades north Italy…only the Bidenhänder is completely German made. So the trading around 1500 worked even without the European Union…

7th July 2021, 03:02 PM	#4
df1967 Member Join Date: Jan 2021 Location: Germany Posts: 50	Blades north Italy