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			Hello dear members, 
		
		
		
			I'd like please your advice and opinion about this dagger, It looks like a pedang lurus but here it's more a small dagger ( 15 inches long with scabbard ) The hilt seems made of better quality ( and older ?)than the scabbard, I find the ornaments on the scabbard made in a '' mechanical'' way, not silver I think, seems too stiff The blade is interesting : large and thick, lamination on the blade reminds me some kriss blades so I wanted to show it to you...  | 
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			I am definitely a novice in what concerns Indonesian weapons, but to my novice eyes, this looks like a repurposed spear tip with a pedang hilt.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			Yes, a pedang/ tombak, not a kris
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			Hello, 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	Thank you Jean and Marius for your messages, the tombak is the javanese name for a spear head, am I right ? any idea about age of the spear head ? Do they blacksmiths forge it with the same steel/pamor than for kriss blades ?  | 
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			 Quote: 
	
 Difficult to say, the pesi (tang) could give some clues. ![]() Quote: 
	
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			Like Jean already said, it's not a keris and need to moved to the other discussion forum.  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	 
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