another old ( I hope ! ) shield ! Ottoman piece ??

Kmaddock · 6th October 2020, 06:27 PM

we see a red skin under surface ( not transluscent, don't think rhino back )
maybe it will stay like that or becomes already lighter...

is translucence in Dahl leather an indication of Rhino hide?

I will put up a pic of my "New" dahl this week
There seems to be a lot on shields at moment, interesting topic I would love to get a Zulu one, I am sure it will happen sometime!!

Regards

Ken

francantolin · 6th October 2020, 08:15 PM

Hello ,
yes it ''usually'' will work , if the leather is thick enough and still translucent.

Just one more criteria, somebody can tell you that if you put a lightened torch behind your ear it will turn red too and we are not rhino's

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Oliver Pinchot · 6th October 2020, 10:32 PM

It has nothing in common with Ottoman materials, form
or construction. It is either N.Indian or Afghan, vers 1820-50

David R · 7th October 2020, 12:06 AM

I would not rule out a tribal piece from the Caucuses. The Kev-Sur for example used iron bound hide bucklers, though theirs usually with a central boss.

francantolin · 7th October 2020, 03:47 PM

Hello,

thank you for your comments !

North india and Afghanistan make me think of Balochistan and their shields.
I found this leather shield with the metal side but it's less raw than ''mine'' with his all iron structure...

The Khevsur people and their armor are really interesting,
I saw their small iron raw round dhal looking shield that made me think too that
''mine'' could come from some( where(?) ) in central Asia...

Another point: the leather; it seems all made of small hair-wool more than skin cells...

francantolin · 7th October 2020, 06:35 PM

Seller told me hippo for the leather and indo persian origin...

7th October 2020, 03:47 PM	#5
francantolin Member Join Date: Sep 2014 Posts: 924	Hello, thank you for your comments ! North india and Afghanistan make me think of Balochistan and their shields. I found this leather shield with the metal side but it's less raw than ''mine'' with his all iron structure... The Khevsur people and their armor are really interesting, I saw their small iron raw round dhal looking shield that made me think too that ''mine'' could come from some( where(?) ) in central Asia... Another point: the leather; it seems all made of small hair-wool more than skin cells... Attached Images

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6th October 2020, 06:27 PM	#1
Kmaddock Member Join Date: May 2014 Location: Ireland Posts: 545	we see a red skin under surface ( not transluscent, don't think rhino back ) maybe it will stay like that or becomes already lighter... is translucence in Dahl leather an indication of Rhino hide? I will put up a pic of my "New" dahl this week There seems to be a lot on shields at moment, interesting topic I would love to get a Zulu one, I am sure it will happen sometime!! Regards Ken

6th October 2020, 08:15 PM	#2
francantolin Member Join Date: Sep 2014 Posts: 924	Hello , yes it ''usually'' will work , if the leather is thick enough and still translucent. Just one more criteria, somebody can tell you that if you put a lightened torch behind your ear it will turn red too and we are not rhino's ...

6th October 2020, 10:32 PM	#3
Oliver Pinchot Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 470	It has nothing in common with Ottoman materials, form or construction. It is either N.Indian or Afghan, vers 1820-50

7th October 2020, 12:06 AM	#4
David R Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 1,135	I would not rule out a tribal piece from the Caucuses. The Kev-Sur for example used iron bound hide bucklers, though theirs usually with a central boss.

7th October 2020, 06:35 PM	#6
francantolin Member Join Date: Sep 2014 Posts: 924	Seller told me hippo for the leather and indo persian origin...