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Interested Party · 22nd September 2020, 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Jean

AFAIK this style of hilt is called sandang walikat. A nice and old specimen of Madurese kris.

Is sandang walikat derived from kocet kocetan? The first two pictures particularly brought that to mind.

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Jean · 22nd September 2020, 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Interested Party

Is sandang walikat derived from kocet kocetan? The first two pictures particularly brought that to mind.

No, sandang walikat designates a style of triangular kris scabbard from Java or Madura, see attached specimen, and also apparently a style of Madurese hilt, see pic.
Regards

Jean · 22nd September 2020, 08:39 PM

By the way, the pendok seems to be missing and the black horn inserts on the gandar are probaly more recent than the waranga itself.

Interested Party · 27th September 2020, 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Jean

No, sandang walikat designates a style of triangular kris scabbard from Java or Madura, see attached specimen, and also apparently a style of Madurese hilt, see pic.
Regards

Are the hilts called sandang walikat because the hilt profile is triangular like the scabbard? Would Sanjen's post #43 of this thread, http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...ghlight=repair, contain sandang walikat hilts as well, even though these hilts are planar and not carved?

David · 28th September 2020, 04:39 AM

Charles, i find this Madura keris of yours quite enchanting. Thanks for showing.

A. G. Maisey · 28th September 2020, 04:48 AM

IP, I would suggest that these hilts are called sandang walikat hilts because they are the correct hilt to wear with a sandang walikat wrongko.

sandang = clothing

walikat = shoulder blade (scapula)

Paul B. · 28th September 2020, 01:02 PM

Amazed that the sheath looks identical to mine. Never saw one before with horn tip end and decorative collar.

Marcokeris · 28th September 2020, 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Paul B.

Amazed that the sheath look identical to mine. Never saw one before with horn tip end and decorative collar.

Beautiful sheath! @@

David · 28th September 2020, 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Paul B.

Amazed that the sheath looks identical to mine. Never saw one before with horn tip end and decorative collar.

Well, they do have similar decorative collars and a black horn toe on the gandar, yes, but these two sheaths are hardly identical. In fact, similarities aside, they are two completely different sheath forms.

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22nd September 2020, 08:39 PM	#3
Jean Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 1,740	By the way, the pendok seems to be missing and the black horn inserts on the gandar are probaly more recent than the waranga itself.

28th September 2020, 04:39 AM	#5
David Keris forum moderator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Nova Scotia Posts: 7,267	Charles, i find this Madura keris of yours quite enchanting. Thanks for showing.

28th September 2020, 04:48 AM	#6
A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 7,157	IP, I would suggest that these hilts are called sandang walikat hilts because they are the correct hilt to wear with a sandang walikat wrongko. sandang = clothing walikat = shoulder blade (scapula)