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Old 4th June 2020, 08:00 PM   #1
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Old 4th June 2020, 08:45 PM   #2
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Good genuine Yemeni Jambiya IMHO. Not a recent made tourist piece.
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Old 4th June 2020, 09:55 PM   #3
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The hilt could be "Amberoid" .... https://www.britannica.com/science/amberoid-resin

I think you got a nice one.
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Old 4th June 2020, 11:07 PM   #4
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Hi
It's a nice jambiya from Aden.
It depends what you call old, if old is 1950ties, it's old.
I think it is hornoid or bakelite.
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"I tried to heat a little, it smells not like horn/hair not plastic
but a little like soap-incense."

Which is why I am thinking something resinous, like Amberoid.
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Quote:
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"I tried to heat a little, it smells not like horn/hair not plastic
but a little like soap-incense."

Which is why I am thinking something resinous, like Amberoid.

logical !
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Old 5th June 2020, 06:26 PM   #7
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Quote:
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"I tried to heat a little, it smells not like horn/hair not plastic
but a little like soap-incense."

Which is why I am thinking something resinous, like Amberoid.
Indeed it is extremely interesting! Especialy in Yemen.
I have some jambiya the blade is connected to the hilt with some frankincense... but its a bit sticky.
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Old 5th June 2020, 04:15 PM   #8
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Hello,

Thank you all for your comments !

50's just begins to be old for humans, for a jambiya not sure
hopefully it's not too recent.

Interesting the ''amberoid'' I didn't know it

I wonder why they used to do this kind of hilt materials instead wood or marble-stone handle and why they mixed it with real silver filgree-mounts.

- Was it to sell it high priced as a rare rhino hilted piece to the few
( I think !?! ) present strangers ( for British ? with the Aden Protectorate... )

- Or for local people who liked the similarity with horn hilt but hadn't enough
money to buy one ? ( like skaļ-imitation leather instead of real one )
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I wonder why they used to do this kind of hilt materials instead wood or marble-stone handle and why they mixed it with real silver filgree-mounts.

- Was it to sell it high priced as a rare rhino hilted piece to the few
( I think !?! ) present strangers ( for British ? with the Aden Protectorate... )

- Or for local people who liked the similarity with horn hilt but hadn't enough
money to buy one ? ( like skaļ-imitation leather instead of real one )
You should buy Gracie's book, the best on this topic.
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Old 5th June 2020, 10:16 PM   #10
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Amberoid is not a cheap material, though nowhere near as expensive as natural Amber. It can also be bought as fairly large blocks, as used to be sold by a supplier used to deal with. The technology is also old, dating back to the late bronze age.

It was a favoured material for pipe stems in the West and in the Muslim world, regarded as self purifying in the Middle East and is used a lot for worry beads in place of genuine amber. No guarantee of course but it would be my guess.

https://gem-a.com/gem-hub/gem-knowle...tructed-pieces
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You should buy Gracie's book, the best on this topic.
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