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Old 7th May 2020, 08:50 PM   #1
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Nice butts!
I just want to add that most of the Moroccan long guns are late copies of English and Dutch snaphaunce muskets with large downward butts. But I think this one is from another part of the world..
Hi Kubur,
The gun shown in your photo at #13 above, looks to be a pinfire, as the hammer noses overlap the barrels at the breech.(They are not cocked either so it is obviously a posed pic). Certainly NOT a percussion gun. Likely to be of French manufacture. Though it is hard to tell from your photo, the action looks to be what is called Lefauchaux. The gun opens by a FORWARD facing lever under the action. I doubt that the user would have found it easy to get suitable cartridges!
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Old 7th May 2020, 10:33 PM   #2
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Hi Rick,

Additional examples I have found attached.

I tend to say it's Algerian musket, but in some places it was also referred as Moroccan.

Please check the butt style in the complete examples. It has a little bit wider butt plate. Maybe it's bone, but also, in some examples, it might be wood.
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Old 9th May 2020, 05:23 PM   #3
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Please check the butt style in the complete examples. It has a little bit wider butt plate. Maybe it's bone, but also, in some examples, it might be wood.
Two guns in the middle are from Tunisia.
But Rick's gun is not from Tunisia. IMHO
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Old 10th May 2020, 09:26 PM   #4
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Hi Kubur

I remember your Algerian gun very well. A very good example. And glad I could help with the "part" LOL

Hi Gusko

Thank you so much for those photos. Those are the ones I was looking for. The Algerian looking guns with flintlocks versus the more common miquelet locks.
Notice too the most of the flintlocks are flat faced. That, and the general style of lock looks similar on all. Although the one has a slightly round faced like like mine. Also, notice the wood stock similarities with all. In fact, the last photo butt stock shape is almost a clone of mine.

I can certainly see where some collectors might refer to these guns as either Moroccan or Algerian style guns. In fact, I'm not 100% sure myself. LOL
Of course with the cross of these two cultures it can be confusing at times.
Thanks again Gusko for the photos. And thank you all for your comments.

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Hi Rick,
Can you please show a clear impression of this mark.
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Hi Stu

Have not cleaned the lock up yet. But cleaned the area around the mark. It's very tiny. Took the best pic I could. Looks like a "W" with a tiny crown above it.

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Old 12th May 2020, 08:09 PM   #7
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Hello

The letter W crowned appears on a Belgian weapon, imitation of the Tower, existing in a Museum and which served to make Fabricaciones Militartes (Argentina) reproduce the flintlock

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