Tumbuk lada with Malayan rhino horn handle?

David · 5th March 2020, 03:51 PM

Well, i couldn't say from just those photos.
I am also still curious about the naming. I see peninsula folks often calling these tumbuk lada, but other people claim that is a similar blade with a clunker handle (pepper crusher). We discussed this a little bit in my recent thread on the one i just acquired. I know this is a bit of the name game, but i am trying to determine is tumbuk lada and sewar are actually two different types of knife or just different names for the same kind of knife.

http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=25663

Sajen · 5th March 2020, 05:02 PM

I also doubt that it's Rhino horn!

kai · 5th March 2020, 10:00 PM

Hello Nik,

Extremely unlikely from mere statistics alone. (Search this forum for identifying features - not visible from these pics though.)

BTW, I suspect the "carving" of the pommel is from rats gnawing away on it...

Regards,
Kai

Green · 1st June 2020, 02:39 PM

Now that I have this item in hand, I'll putting up a few close up pics of the handle and part of the sheath. A rather unusual thing for me is the coloration of the handle, it is not black or translucent as in albino bufallo horn but brownish in parts and with lines/striations and pittings(?) in some places. It look almost like a skin rather than horn.

Can anyone comment what it actually is?... buffalo horn?

David · 1st June 2020, 03:17 PM

I'm not sure what kind of horn this is. It doesn't really look like rhino, but then your photos don't really reveal very much. I can't see the structure of the horn. On close examination though you should be able to see a tubular structure with a dot in the center if it is rhino .

Sajen · 1st June 2020, 09:14 PM

It look like water buffalo horn, very worn and get wet once over some time. Still a nice sewar or when you want tumbok lada!

Regards,
Detlef

Green · 2nd June 2020, 10:31 AM

Thanks for the confirmation/opinion Detlef!

1st June 2020, 02:39 PM	#4
Green Member Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Malaysia Posts: 323	Now that I have this item in hand, I'll putting up a few close up pics of the handle and part of the sheath. A rather unusual thing for me is the coloration of the handle, it is not black or translucent as in albino bufallo horn but brownish in parts and with lines/striations and pittings(?) in some places. It look almost like a skin rather than horn. Can anyone comment what it actually is?... buffalo horn? Attached Images

1st June 2020, 03:17 PM	#5
David Keris forum moderator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Nova Scotia Posts: 7,220	I'm not sure what kind of horn this is. It doesn't really look like rhino, but then your photos don't really reveal very much. I can't see the structure of the horn. On close examination though you should be able to see a tubular structure with a dot in the center if it is rhino . Attached Images Last edited by David; 7th June 2020 at 01:46 PM.

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5th March 2020, 03:51 PM	#1
David Keris forum moderator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Nova Scotia Posts: 7,220	Well, i couldn't say from just those photos. I am also still curious about the naming. I see peninsula folks often calling these tumbuk lada, but other people claim that is a similar blade with a clunker handle (pepper crusher). We discussed this a little bit in my recent thread on the one i just acquired. I know this is a bit of the name game, but i am trying to determine is tumbuk lada and sewar are actually two different types of knife or just different names for the same kind of knife. http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=25663

5th March 2020, 05:02 PM	#2
Sajen Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Germany, Dortmund Posts: 9,244	I also doubt that it's Rhino horn!

5th March 2020, 10:00 PM	#3
kai Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 3,255	Hello Nik, Extremely unlikely from mere statistics alone. (Search this forum for identifying features - not visible from these pics though.) BTW, I suspect the "carving" of the pommel is from rats gnawing away on it... Regards, Kai

1st June 2020, 09:14 PM	#6
Sajen Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Germany, Dortmund Posts: 9,244	It look like water buffalo horn, very worn and get wet once over some time. Still a nice sewar or when you want tumbok lada! Regards, Detlef

2nd June 2020, 10:31 AM	#7
Green Member Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Malaysia Posts: 323	Thanks for the confirmation/opinion Detlef!