Is this a Persian Kard?

[mariusgmioc]

As it was said before, in my oppinion too, it is 19th century Ottoman, most likely Turkish Kard.

Better photos should help to identify if it is wootz.

[MichaelZWilliamson]

Vendor is getting a professional appraisal. If it's outside my price range, I've told them I'll let people know, so you can descend upon them.

[OsobistGB]

Excellent Ottoman kard.Congratulations
In regard to the silver scabbard, I have some doubts that it is from another set.If the knife comes in without difficulty and stands tight then everything is ok.

[Kubur]

Originally Posted by OsobistGB

Excellent Ottoman kard.Congratulations
In regard to the silver scabbard, I have some doubts that it is from another set.If the knife comes in without difficulty and stands tight then everything is ok.

I agree but even better show us a photo of the knife in the scabbard
According to some members it will be Greek but i think it's a Turkish bishaq...
A kard is Persian....

[Saracen]

Originally Posted by OsobistGB

Excellent Ottoman kard.Congratulations
In regard to the silver scabbard, I have some doubts that it is from another set.If the knife comes in without difficulty and stands tight then everything is ok.

I agree with OsobistGB
Greek scabbard (Crete). Card with a strong Persian influence.

Согласен с OsobistGB
Ножны греческие (Крит). Кард с сильным персидским влиянием.

[MichaelZWilliamson]

Originally Posted by OsobistGB

Excellent Ottoman kard.Congratulations
In regard to the silver scabbard, I have some doubts that it is from another set.If the knife comes in without difficulty and stands tight then everything is ok.

It fits perfectly.

[MichaelZWilliamson]

Better pics of the metal tomorrow.

[ariel]

Originally Posted by MichaelZWilliamson

It fits perfectly.

I see your point. However, it does not prove its originality. Scabbards were the first thing to go due to the fragility of their wooden core, and were replaced at intervals during working life of any bladed weapon. Shaping a new scabbard for the blade did not differ from making an original one. Silver cladding might have been original or new because thin silver was also damaged as part of its exposure to the rigors of daily life. As a matter of fact, a perfectly intact scabbard of an obviously old bladed weapon ( like yours) suggests replacement, IMHO, or careful storage ( museum-like conditions) from the moment of its birth.
You got yourself a very good and fully genuine Kard, it is unquestionably authentic, but full originality of its composing parts cannot be proven. It is not a defect but just an inevitable consequence of its age and active usage.

[MichaelZWilliamson]

Originally Posted by ariel

I see your point. However, it does not prove its originality. Scabbards were the first thing to go due to the fragility of their wooden core, and were replaced at intervals during working life of any bladed weapon.

I agree and understand. It could have been made to fit. Kukri get replacement scabbards from time to time, and I've replaced scabbards for several skean dhus in my shop. But even if a replacement, it is correct for the piece as far as fit. Though its style may not be an exact match.

[MichaelZWilliamson]

They considered my offer over the weekend and I picked it up yesterday.

[ariel]

Sorry: double posting