Kikik added to an older blade?

A. G. Maisey · 17th July 2018, 11:08 PM

Yes Bjorn, intent is the crucial factor.

If an alteration is undertaken by a merchant, that merchant's intent is very probably to increase his profit. I doubt that anybody would argue with this.

However, if we consider the cost of an alteration such as the placement of a figure --- naga, singo, puthut --- into the body of a keris, by the use of forge techniques, then we are looking at a cost that would negate any increase in profit.

This is not to say that such profit driven alterations did not take place (note:- past tense) but when they did occur the work was invariably crude, or crudely disguised, usually by a profusion of gold that covered the joints.

Bjorn · 18th July 2018, 08:45 AM

Thanks, Alan. That is useful information, especially for one who is not all that familiar with the economic benefits and costs associated with such alterations.

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17th July 2018, 11:08 PM	#1
A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 7,164	Yes Bjorn, intent is the crucial factor. If an alteration is undertaken by a merchant, that merchant's intent is very probably to increase his profit. I doubt that anybody would argue with this. However, if we consider the cost of an alteration such as the placement of a figure --- naga, singo, puthut --- into the body of a keris, by the use of forge techniques, then we are looking at a cost that would negate any increase in profit. This is not to say that such profit driven alterations did not take place (note:- past tense) but when they did occur the work was invariably crude, or crudely disguised, usually by a profusion of gold that covered the joints.

18th July 2018, 08:45 AM	#2
Bjorn Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Netherlands Posts: 188	Thanks, Alan. That is useful information, especially for one who is not all that familiar with the economic benefits and costs associated with such alterations.