Importing ivory

Jens Nordlunde · 27th January 2018, 09:56 PM

The governments are closing in in ivory 'export', so be very careful what you buy, and what documents you get.
It could be plastic looking like ivory, but then it has to be documented so, as the costumers does not have any knowledge -and even then you may have problems.

Lee · 17th April 2018, 12:58 PM

Here is a link to a New York Times article concerning plans for an over-restrictive ban in Britain.

Jens Nordlunde · 17th April 2018, 03:02 PM

Lee,
Yes I have seen it, and it is very drastic what the UK government is doing.
I very much agree with, that killing the elephants for the ivory, should be stopped, and that the different countries should ban any trade with ivory newer than 100 years. I do, however, find it out of proportion to include old ivory.
Does anyone know what the big auction houses have to say, and if they have tried to get the law softened up a bit?

silberschatzimsee · 25th April 2018, 12:48 AM

Not a single elephant will be saved by these new sjw-laws.

A. G. Maisey · 25th April 2018, 01:10 AM

Absolutely so, in fact, in the long term --- I'm talking perhaps +100 years --- this stupidity will very probably see elephants reduced to skeleton breeding herds scattered across the world.

Jens Nordlunde · 27th May 2018, 03:53 PM

If you think of importing ivory - check the rules in the country where you live.
I have just checked the rules in the country where I live, and should I want to import ivory from a third country (not EU) the seller would need a CITES export cretificate, and I would need a CITES import certificate.
I have a feeling that even with such a certificat all problems are not over, should the customs people be in doubt - and maybe they would be, they may ask an expert to have a look at the item. The costs of the certificates and the expert are on you.

I know it sounds crazy for a serious collector, but to recieve a dagger stripped of its ivory hilt is not funny either - stripped for its historical value and its money value.

17th April 2018, 12:58 PM	#2
Lee EAAF Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Upstate New York, USA Posts: 937	Shortsighted legislative stupidity not restricted to one side of the Atlantic Here is a link to a New York Times article concerning plans for an over-restrictive ban in Britain.

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27th January 2018, 09:56 PM	#1
Jens Nordlunde Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Europe Posts: 2,718	The governments are closing in in ivory 'export', so be very careful what you buy, and what documents you get. It could be plastic looking like ivory, but then it has to be documented so, as the costumers does not have any knowledge -and even then you may have problems.

17th April 2018, 03:02 PM	#3
Jens Nordlunde Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Europe Posts: 2,718	Lee, Yes I have seen it, and it is very drastic what the UK government is doing. I very much agree with, that killing the elephants for the ivory, should be stopped, and that the different countries should ban any trade with ivory newer than 100 years. I do, however, find it out of proportion to include old ivory. Does anyone know what the big auction houses have to say, and if they have tried to get the law softened up a bit?

25th April 2018, 12:48 AM	#4
silberschatzimsee Member Join Date: Aug 2015 Posts: 90	Not a single elephant will be saved by these new sjw-laws.

25th April 2018, 01:10 AM	#5
A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 7,015	Absolutely so, in fact, in the long term --- I'm talking perhaps +100 years --- this stupidity will very probably see elephants reduced to skeleton breeding herds scattered across the world.

27th May 2018, 03:53 PM	#6
Jens Nordlunde Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Europe Posts: 2,718	If you think of importing ivory - check the rules in the country where you live. I have just checked the rules in the country where I live, and should I want to import ivory from a third country (not EU) the seller would need a CITES export cretificate, and I would need a CITES import certificate. I have a feeling that even with such a certificat all problems are not over, should the customs people be in doubt - and maybe they would be, they may ask an expert to have a look at the item. The costs of the certificates and the expert are on you. I know it sounds crazy for a serious collector, but to recieve a dagger stripped of its ivory hilt is not funny either - stripped for its historical value and its money value.