Jimpul ex.collection W.O. Oldman

[Henk]

Originally Posted by Dajak

Hi no this is wrong the 3 picture is important for if it is a Jimpul or not.

Albert Zonneveld made a big mistake putting a certan mandua between the jimpuls.

On the Old Iban mandau you can find cowry shells

I will post another one from the Coppens collection that have the same

I think I count in another way, Dajak. The protrusion of the second jimpul on the picture is important. It is a kind of guard before the sharp part of the blade begins.
Very nice examples, by the way.

[Dajak]

Hi Henk take my word I am just collecting these items only more than 30 years it is the way like I am telling.

The guard use is only by the parang Niabor and some old langai tingai.

[Dajak]

HI Flavio

Difficult to say just look at the quality of the blade scabbard handle

and don t forget that high quality mandau s can do these days more than 5 or 6000.00 euro's these pieces you see never on ebay

[VVV]

In a way you are both correct (according to Shelford's definition).
Dajak's comment on the Jimpul not ending in a point is found on all Jimpul.
And Henk's comment on the finger-guard protrusion is usually found on a Jimpul.
But it's not a "must be there" like Dajak's "non-point".

Michael

[VVV]

And here is another ex-Coppen's, the one on page 73 far right.

Michael

[Dajak]

Look at the finger guard how can this hold your finger .

by the way an exxelent Jimpul This one was in my friend Richards collection.

look at these pics none off them is a Jimpul so the crowit makes not that it is a jimpul.

The parang Ilang is pictured in the book Quer Durch Borneo 1894 page 150
but has a crowit to Henk schould this be a Jimpul.

The other one Is a langgai Tingai but according to Henk it is a Jimpul.

So this explains why I am saying the crowit makes it not a Jimpul.

And by the pics you can see I am right

A Jimpul has a crowit and the the strange end it needs both to be a jimpul .