(said to be) newly found old keris

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[Jean]

Very good restoration job!

[Rick]

These three were found together in the same place?

[mariusgmioc]

Very interesting how there is a vestigeal mendak fused to the pesi, but there are are no traces of vestigeal hilts... just to mention one of the things I find suspicious.

To me these blades have been artificially aged.

But maybe I am too paranoid.

[David]

Originally Posted by mariusgmioc

Very interesting how there is a vestigeal mendak fused to the pesi, but there are are no traces of vestigeal hilts... just to mention one of the things I find suspicious.

To me these blades have been artificially aged.

But maybe I am too paranoid.

Marius, what do you mean by "vestigial" hilts. This style of keris did not have intrinsic iron hilts like keris sajen. The hilts on this type of keris would most likely be wood which would not survive long periods of time (centuries) buried in the earth.
That doesn't remove all suspicion from these pieces, but i cannot see the lack of any remains of the hilt as cause for that suspicion.

[mariusgmioc]

Originally Posted by David

Marius, what do you mean by "vestigial" hilts. This style of keris did not have intrinsic iron hilts like keris sajen. The hilts on this type of keris would most likely be wood which would not survive long periods of time (centuries) buried in the earth.
That doesn't remove all suspicion from these pieces, but i cannot see the lack of any remains of the hilt as cause for that suspicion.

By vestigial hilts, I meant some vestiges of old wooden hilts. Generally even rotten wood leaves some traces and definitely unevenly corroded pesis. Moreover, some hardwoods are very resistant to rotting and can survive hundreds of years in soil.

However, it is rather difficult to judge without having them in the hand... and enen then it may be hard to tell for sure.

[Jean]

Old or artificially aged? This type of blade is a typical dilemma for the collectors and they are not sold cheap. Personally I would vote for artificially aged as the corrosion is quite uniform but would like to hear Alan's opinion.
If I am correct, the maker did his best to lure us (square pesi, metuk, blade shape, ricikan, etc).
Regards