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			one example type of keris Bugis rare, sorry I could not send a full picture of the blade in because the owner only menginjinkan in the photo just below the bar, once again I apologize 
		
		
		
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			Hello, 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	It would be nice if you show us the whole thing! Not that I am very knowledgeable, but I doubt that anyone can form an educated oppinion from a photo of a fragment of the blade. ![]() Maybe you can get a bigger photo from the owner?  | 
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 dear mariusgmioc I've tried to persuade the owner but to no avail, once again I apologize friend regrads LP  | 
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			In Java the dapur type may be called Laler Mengeng Bungkem (inverted kembang kacang touching the gandik), the pamor pattern is not very clear and the blade would benefit from cleaning & staining. Is the blade straight or wavy? 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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 dear jean this wavy keris, yes in java called laler manggeng or kupu tarung, but in bugis we call kanuku garudayya, regrads LP  | 
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			Hello La Pagaru, 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
			As far as I know in Java Laler Mengeng is a straight dapur type while Kupu Tarung (butterfly wings) is a pamor pattern style. I (and probably other collectors) would be very interested to see equivalence tables for similar dapur types and pamor pattern styles from Sulawesi and Java. I realize that it may difficult as many of them may not be exactly similar... Regards Last edited by Jean; 18th March 2017 at 05:08 PM.  | 
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			Hallo La Pagaru 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	I try to contact you by private message...could you open and read it ,please... (No hp ta ilang sodaraaaa) Regards , Ganja Iras  | 
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