Do you have a Greek pistol?

[rickystl]

Originally Posted by Kubur

Hi Rick,

Well, first your pistol is just gorgeous. I love it.
Is it silver? It's a type that i wish to have.... Especially in such good condition.
Second, I don't think that your pistol was really done for the Greek taste.
When you look at old engravings and paintings of Greek uprising, or Elgood book, you can see a lot of Balkans / Ottoman weapons, swords, rifles and pistols. And I have no doubt that Greeks use your kind of pistol. But for me a Greek pistol is more like the one of Corona...
I shouldn't write for the Greek market but more for the Greek taste...
What our Greek friends think???

Kubur

Hi Kubur.

Yes, the stock is one piece silver. The lower grade, which the proper name escapes me at the moment. In the photos the pistol needs a bit of a cleaning. But it's hard to clean and keep it that way.
I hesitated to post this pistol since reference material from Elgood, Tiri, etc. point to this style to the close proximities of Greece, namely Montenegro and other contingent locations. But I remember other references "loosely" calling these Greek pistols. But I've never thought this correct. I don't think it's ever really been confirmed which market these "spiked" silver pistols were directed towards. Maybe other Forum members have better information.
Anyway, I don't want to deter from your Thread any more than I have already. LOL
IMHO the pistol posted by Corrado26 is a textbook example of a Greek, or made for the Greek market pistol. And a beautiful one I might add. Wish I owned it.
As you mentioned, while not rare, the Greek pistols (and even the Palaskas and Suma Rods) tend to bring higer collector prices - often considerably more - than their typical Ottoman counterparts. It seems when they are offered for sale, they show up at the higher-end auction houses such as Christies, etc.
I hope we see some additional pistols posted to this Thread. I would be anxious to see them.

Rick

[Kubur]

Hi Rick,

Here is the one that i just got for a good price.
Good price means problems: trigger guard broken and lock completely rusted...


Best,

[rickystl]

Hi Kubur.

The decoration on that pistol looks very Greek to me. Also note the butt cap and more straight grip. Different than the style Corrado posted here. The straighter grip and butt cap style were also popular with many Albanian pistols.

The lock looks like all the pieces are there (?). Do you have the broken piece of the trigger guard ? Or is it missing ?

Rick

[stelio]

Hello my friends.
This is my new Greek flintlock pistol - kumpoura.
A example of first quarter 19th century.This example is heavy and mounted in solid silver with niello highlights of a fine quality workmanship.
Overall length -36 cm
Weight -1200gr
Some of the designs that has carved the respondent is: Two heads eagle, flowers, men's faces.

[stelio]

More photos from pistol and a Greek silver ramrod - harbi

[Sylektis]

Five more.

[Kubur]

Originally Posted by Sylektis

Five more.

Stelio, Sylektis,

You are killing me!
I feel ashamed with my broken pistol!!
Guys, there is another kind that I dream to have, the Souliot one from Epirus.
I post one photo from Google for the other members who don't know what I mean...

Kind regards,
Kubur

[Kubur]

Originally Posted by rickystl

Hi Kubur.

The decoration on that pistol looks very Greek to me. Also note the butt cap and more straight grip. Different than the style Corrado posted here. The straighter grip and butt cap style were also popular with many Albanian pistols.

The lock looks like all the pieces are there (?). Do you have the broken piece of the trigger guard ? Or is it missing ?

Rick

Hi Rick,
Yes the lock is complete but totaly rusted, I don't know what to do...
Only a tiny part of the trigger guard is present.
It will be very difficult to find a Greek trigger guard and I don't want to put something else. So I think that i will remove the small bit, as far I know a lot of Ottoman and Greek pistols had no trigger guards...
Kubur

[rickystl]

Originally Posted by Kubur

Hi Rick,
Yes the lock is complete but totaly rusted, I don't know what to do...
Only a tiny part of the trigger guard is present.
It will be very difficult to find a Greek trigger guard and I don't want to put something else. So I think that i will remove the small bit, as far I know a lot of Ottoman and Greek pistols had no trigger guards...
Kubur

Hi Kubur.

Yes, I see what you mean. The lock appears to have heavy corrosion. You could still clean up the lock and barrel. Maybe a long soaking in some penetrating fluid, etc. Yes, removing the stub of the trigger guard would display better. Agreed, would look better with no guard in this instance.

Rick.

[iskender]

greetings , silver-stocks and niello , locks and barrels probably from brecia. 56 and 58cm long. Iskender

[eftihis]

Very nice examples!

[Kubur]

Originally Posted by iskender

greetings , silver-stocks and niello , locks and barrels probably from brecia. 56 and 58cm long. Iskender

They are so beautiful. Do you need both of them?
Please PM me if you need to do some space at home...

[rickystl]

Originally Posted by iskender

greetings , silver-stocks and niello , locks and barrels probably from brecia. 56 and 58cm long. Iskender

Beautiful pistols. Yes, the locks look very European in style and quality. Super nice.

Rick

[Sylektis]

Originally Posted by iskender

greetings , silver-stocks and niello , locks and barrels probably from brecia. 56 and 58cm long. Iskender

Wonderful pistols indeed!
Two similar has Vasilatos in his book. He even attaches the upper in Albanian and the lower in Greek workshop.