Are you kidding me, "no bull?"

ariel · 12th August 2016, 10:01 PM

On several occasions when I visited Spain, the organizers of the meetings offered visits to the corrida as cultural entertainment. I invariably refused. I am not a vegetarian and enjoy my steaks rare, but I do not have to witness the act of butchery. This is pure IMHO.

Having said that, I am a bit surprised by the political correctness of the few and the acquienscence by the moderators. I am not interested in these implements and do not intend to read these post: not out of abhorrence, but simply because of lack of interest. So can the protesters, and they can choose their own motives.

We are discussing here weapons, i.e. implements of death on the battlefields or in dark alleys, sacrificial swords intended to kill immobilized dumb animal for the glory of non-existing symbolic personalities, and even execution implements created for public dismemberment of defenseless humans in front of blood-thirsty spectators , - and accept the appropriateness of such discussions without batting an eye.

To play a politically correct game against discussing , - just discussing! - weapons of the corrida strikes me as ( no personal insult intended) sanctimonious hypocrisy. Do the protesters organize petitions to ban discussions of cold weapons of the Third Reich or WWII Japanese swords?

Well, I have said it all and can return to the study of Persian shamshirs, apparently the best cavalry weapon to slice lightly dressed retreating infantry men.

David · 13th August 2016, 12:47 AM

I find it really interesting that no one really seems to have bothered to actually read Ian's last post fully. His closing line was as follows:
"This thread is closed now, pending further discussion by the Moderators." Maybe if you all stop your bitching and moaning and allow the Moderators of that forum to have an actual discussion about the thread as Ian posted they would the thread might be re-opened. Nobody "ended" this thread. It was temporarily suspended while the moderators evaluated the complaint they received against it. This is standard procedure. The most inappropriate thing that has happened here is all the public criticism that has been leveled at this team while they try their best to balance the needs of one group of members against another. Not an easy task, i can assure you. As Rick has already pointed out, public criticism of moderator actions is not an appropriate response and when you have complaints they should be sent directly to the moderation team in PMs.

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12th August 2016, 10:01 PM	#1
ariel Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Ann Arbor, MI Posts: 5,503	On several occasions when I visited Spain, the organizers of the meetings offered visits to the corrida as cultural entertainment. I invariably refused. I am not a vegetarian and enjoy my steaks rare, but I do not have to witness the act of butchery. This is pure IMHO. Having said that, I am a bit surprised by the political correctness of the few and the acquienscence by the moderators. I am not interested in these implements and do not intend to read these post: not out of abhorrence, but simply because of lack of interest. So can the protesters, and they can choose their own motives. We are discussing here weapons, i.e. implements of death on the battlefields or in dark alleys, sacrificial swords intended to kill immobilized dumb animal for the glory of non-existing symbolic personalities, and even execution implements created for public dismemberment of defenseless humans in front of blood-thirsty spectators , - and accept the appropriateness of such discussions without batting an eye. To play a politically correct game against discussing , - just discussing! - weapons of the corrida strikes me as ( no personal insult intended) sanctimonious hypocrisy. Do the protesters organize petitions to ban discussions of cold weapons of the Third Reich or WWII Japanese swords? Well, I have said it all and can return to the study of Persian shamshirs, apparently the best cavalry weapon to slice lightly dressed retreating infantry men.

13th August 2016, 12:47 AM	#2
David Keris forum moderator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Nova Scotia Posts: 7,297	I find it really interesting that no one really seems to have bothered to actually read Ian's last post fully. His closing line was as follows: "This thread is closed now, pending further discussion by the Moderators." Maybe if you all stop your bitching and moaning and allow the Moderators of that forum to have an actual discussion about the thread as Ian posted they would the thread might be re-opened. Nobody "ended" this thread. It was temporarily suspended while the moderators evaluated the complaint they received against it. This is standard procedure. The most inappropriate thing that has happened here is all the public criticism that has been leveled at this team while they try their best to balance the needs of one group of members against another. Not an easy task, i can assure you. As Rick has already pointed out, public criticism of moderator actions is not an appropriate response and when you have complaints they should be sent directly to the moderation team in PMs.