Luzon daga, wavy blade

[David]

Originally Posted by Roland_M

If you want, we can try out together, whether laminated or not, during your next visit.

I'm confused. What are those lines on the blade if not lamination lines?
Nice looking dagger.

[mariusgmioc]

Originally Posted by David

I'm confused. What are those lines on the blade if not lamination lines?
Nice looking dagger.

Exactly!

It looks quite... laminated to me.

[Sajen]

Originally Posted by David

I'm confused. What are those lines on the blade if not lamination lines?
Nice looking dagger.

Thank you David, Russel and Marius for comment! I think as well that there are lamination lines visible, but could be from the light, I am unsure.
Any age guesses?

Regards,
Detlef

[mariusgmioc]

Originally Posted by Sajen

Thank you David, Russel and Marius for comment! I think as well that there are lamination lines visible, but could be from the light, I am unsure.
Any age guesses?

Regards,
Detlef

Definitely not from the light!

Wost case scenario, they might be etched/engraved to mimic pattern welding but I still believe it is genuine lamination.

It will be very easy to establish once you have it and examine it closely.

[Roland_M]

Originally Posted by David

I'm confused. What are those lines on the blade if not lamination lines?
Nice looking dagger.

An etched fake damascus pattern for example.

I have only found a picture of faux wootz.

[Ian]

Hi Detlef:

Very nice knife. Perhaps Philippines First Republic period (1899–1901) or thereabouts. A strong Spanish influence in the hilt, as noted previously. This one could be Ilocano or from Central Luzon--I favor Ilocano.

Ian.

[David]

Originally Posted by Roland_M

An etched fake damascus pattern for example.

I have only found a picture of faux wootz.

Roland, i am quite aware that people create fake patterns on blades such as this fake wootz that you show here. However, i have never seen anyone fake these simple lamination lines (usually it is more complicated patterns) which is probably why you had a hard time finding a photo depicting that.

[mariusgmioc]

Originally Posted by David

Roland, i am quite aware that people create fake patterns on blades such as this fake wootz that you show here. However, i have never seen anyone fake these simple lamination lines (usually it is more complicated patterns) which is probably why you had a hard time finding a photo depicting that.

Well, I have seen fake lamination lines on Chinese Jian swords, trying to immitate the "San Mai" (triple-steel) structure... but that was the only instance.

That's why I am pretty sure this is genuinely laminated.

Have a nice weekend!...

... even if we continue the debate

[David]

Well, the debate won't continue for long. Detlef will be sure as soon as it gets into his hands.
That said, i have never seen fake lamination on Filipino blades, at least not an obviously vintage example such as this. My guess is that Detlef didn't take too big a risk going for this on.

[Battara]

I'm with Ian on this one - First Republic era and Ilocano.

I too was watching this one...........

Congrats Detlef!

[Sajen]

First, thank you all for comment! I agree, it seems to be a clearly lamination what we can see by some pictures. Either this dagger coming from a well cared collection or it is in an outstanding good original condition. Would be interesting to know this since it would give us some understanding about if laminated blades from Luzon get etched originally.
Ian and Jose, thank you both very much for your age and origin guesses. Yes, I gree that this dagger coming from the First Republic area and could be an Ilocano piece. An other origin could be Cental Luzon like Ian suggest as well, a possibility also because the strong Spanish influence in the hilt.
I am happy that my age guess was most probable correct. I've searched in old threads but don't find a similar one for comparison, appearance and size. When someone would be able to show a similar one I would be very grateful.

Best regards,
Detlef