Identification of barrel's marks on a Greek pistol

[Sylektis]

Hi friends,

Can anybody recognize the barrel's marks on this Greek pistol?
Thank you in advance.

[Dom]

very beautiful pistol,
very elegant in its form and decoration
I just love it
thanks for sharing

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Dom

[Multumesc]

It is very interesting gun. It is obvious that Eastern origin. What size is and what weight is?

[Matchlock]

Hi Sylektis,

All I can contribute is this photoshoped version of your image of the marks, hoping it will help attract more competent members.

Best,
Michael

[Sylektis]

Originally Posted by Multumesc

It is very interesting gun. It is obvious that Eastern origin. What size is and what weight is?

Length= 45cm
Weight= 1162gr

[Sylektis]

Hi again.

I found in my photo archive the same marks on another pistol.
Can anybody help now?
Resemble Belgian proof marks but I can't identify them exactly.
Thank you.

[fernando]

Hy Sylektis,
They have a similar exterior oval shape but they are not Belgium (Liege) at all.
I guess all those efects in your pistol ar only decorative, to resemble real marks; a practice often seen in Turkish guns, for one .

[Kubur]

Hi Skyletis,

I have one question, do you think the Owl on your pistol is linked to Athena and it's a symbol of Athens the Greek capital?


Kubur

[Sylektis]

Originally Posted by Kubur

Hi Skyletis,

I have one question, do you think the Owl on your pistol is linked to Athena and it's a symbol of Athens the Greek capital?


Kubur

With the beginning of the Greek Revolution of 1821, the temporary government tried to link the new country with its ancient history. So, in art, Greece has the face of Athena.

[Kubur]

Thank you it's very interesting.
Do you know if the lion is a Greek symbol or a Turkishsymbol?
I have seen lions on many palaskas. I have a palaska with lions too.
In Europe, you can find many swords with lions as this animal is a symbol of strengh and justice.
Best,

[Sylektis]

Originally Posted by Kubur

Thank you it's very interesting.
Do you know if the lion is a Greek symbol or a Turkishsymbol?
I have seen lions on many palaskas. I have a palaska with lions too.
In Europe, you can find many swords with lions as this animal is a symbol of strengh and justice.
Best,

Lion was a very old symbol of strength and gentleness for Kings and Heroes.(although they have disappeared from Greece many years ago!) The Ottomans were not using people and animals as symbols and art. It was used only as a title by a number of Seljuk and Ottoman rulers, including Alp Arslan and Ali Pasha. (The latter was called "The lion of Epirus")

[Kubur]

Thank you very much, because the examples that you provided demonstrate well that the lions are connected to Greek palaskas. What do you think about these ones? 2 lions and 2 birds, so interesting...
Best,

[Sylektis]

After exactly 10 years I managed to get his couple. The owls found their match.

[fernando]

Fantastic !!!

[corrado26]

This is a miracle, I never heard that separated pairs found together again. Congratulations

[rickystl]

Originally Posted by corrado26

This is a miracle, I never heard that separated pairs found together again. Congratulations

I second that !! Incredibally beautiful pistols. The Greeks did seem fond of adding facial masks to their metal work.

Rick

[chitoryu12]

I had a friend look over his gun book. They appear to be maker's marks, but he doesn't know which maker.