18th Centuary Ottoman Kard.

[estcrh]

Originally Posted by Miguel

Thanks for this info but I would be reluctant to clean and etch this blade in case I damaged it, however I do have some helmets with chain mail around the bottom which is rusted and would be like to know if Picreator’s Renaissance Metal De-Corroder would be suitable for removing the rust?
Regards
Miguel

What country are you in?

[mariusgmioc]

Picreator's Metal De-corroder is specifically designed to remove the rust but, it is rather expensive.

Here is the link to Pireator's website where you can find more information on their products.

http://www.picreator.co.uk/articles/1_about_us.htm

As with regards to cleaning and etching the blade, is always better safe than sorry.

PS: I don't really believe that is relevant whether the hilt is Jadeite, Nephrite (these two are known under the generic name of Jade), Serpentine or Onyx as they are very similar and sometimes it is very difficult even for connoisseurs to distinguish them. Yet, for your hilt my bet would be Onyx (it is a Turkish knife and they have some beautiful green Onyx deposits in Central Anatolia).
Just be aware that much of what is called "Jade" is not Jade (namely Jadeite or Nephrite) but Serpentine, Onyx and other similar minerals and sometimes even glass (most of the Chinese "jade" figures you can buy on the net are actually glass).

[Miguel]

Originally Posted by mariusgmioc

Picreator's Metal De-corroder is specifically designed to remove the rust but, it is rather expensive.

Here is the link to Pireator's website where you can find more information on their products.

http://www.picreator.co.uk/articles/1_about_us.htm

As with regards to cleaning and etching the blade, is always better safe than sorry.

PS: I don't really believe that is relevant whether the hilt is Jadeite, Nephrite (these two are known under the generic name of Jade), Serpentine or Onyx as they are very similar and sometimes it is very difficult even for connoisseurs to distinguish them. Yet, for your hilt my bet would be Onyx (it is a Turkish knife and they have some beautiful green Onyx deposits in Central Anatolia).
Just be aware that much of what is called "Jade" is not Jade (namely Jadeite or Nephrite) but Serpentine, Onyx and other similar minerals and sometimes even glass (most of the Chinese "jade" figures you can buy on the net are actually glass).

Thank you for the information.

[Miguel]

Originally Posted by estcrh

What country are you in?

Why do you ask ?

[estcrh]

Originally Posted by Miguel

Why do you ask ?

Miquel, some derusters are only available in certain regions, there are some very good ones available in North America which you can not get in other areas and vice versa.

[Miguel]

Originally Posted by estcrh

Miquel, some derusters are only available in certain regions, there are some very good ones available in North America which you can not get on other areas and vice versa.

I see why you asked, I am in the UK.
Regards
Miguel

[estcrh]

Here is another small Ottoman kard.

[Jens Nordlunde]

In the book Rites of Power. Oriental Weapons. ISBN 978-989-658-056-8. Three of these kards are shown, all three are said to be Turkish from the 19th century.

[Miguel]

Originally Posted by Jens Nordlunde

In the book Rites of Power. Oriental Weapons. ISBN 978-989-658-056-8. Three of these kards are shown, all three are said to be Turkish from the 19th century.

Hi Jens,

I think we are both correct with the dating as my ref says late 18th early 19th C.
Regards
Miguel

[mariusgmioc]

Originally Posted by estcrh

Here is another small Ottoman kard.

Beautiful! Thank you!


Did you check it for wootz?

[estcrh]

Originally Posted by mariusgmioc

Beautiful! Thank you!


Did you check it for wootz?

Close examination shows no sign of wootz, I have not tried etching but eventually I may try it.