Relic Spear

[Hotspur]

Did 18th century half pikes (and boarding pikes) have 2" wide hafts? Seems a bit hefty but my next would be my first.


Cheers

GC

[Rick]

Pretty surprised by the lack of interest here, oh well.
Here is a shot of the socket (or what's left of it) for an idea of dimension.
Thanks very much for your input Glenn.
I guess I'll have to file it under colonial martial miscellania/poking weapons barring further input on the subject.

[M ELEY]

I wouldn't say lack of interest, but some old relics are hard to pin down. I agree with Glenn that it doesn't appear to be a traditional boarding pike (and I see 'nautical/pirate' in everything!!). It has quite a bit of aging/corrosion to it, so dating is difficult. if you picked it up in Nova Scotia, I might have jumped at 'Viking', but as far as I know, Nordic spears didn't have langets.

I think Glenn had it when he said it was a pike head from Europe, probably very early (17th c.), likely brought over by the early settlers. Back in the early colonial times, the ships were packed with traditional items/weapons from the continent. Check out Harold Peterson's books on early American colonial weapons of the period. Nice find, BTW! Getting some provenance in writing that it was found here and not a bring-back would increase the value to collectors.

Would just like to add a reminder- The precursor to the boarding axe was the spike ax/trade 'tomnahawk', as the ship's manifests used to read. The precursor to the cutlass was the hanger. The precursor to the boarding pike was the pike, which came over in ship's holds to defend installations, forts, and ships of that earlier period. Not a boarding pike in sheer definition, but it could have easily seen sea service.
Mark

[fernando]

Originally Posted by Rick

... I guess I'll have to file it under colonial martial miscellania/poking weapons barring further input on the subject.

And toss it over this side of the pond, so that i may become its host family .

[Rick]

Thanks for the further input from all you guys.
It's not mine to chuck your way 'Nando ; it came from the same restaurateur who plunked this (seen below) down on the bar top; he asked me to identify this $50.00 sabre about a year ago.

Needless to say I envy his consistent good fortune.

Still, it's my favorite watering hole.

[fernando]

Originally Posted by Rick

... Still, it's my favorite watering hole.

Hoping that 'watering' is a figure of speech; we don't want your piping system to get rusty

[Hotspur]

Well, your picture with the tape tells a different story than a 1.75 socket.

You obviously don't need to waste your time on the $50 saber. It is obviously worth no more than shipping costs to me

Cheers

GC

[Rick]

Originally Posted by Hotspur

Well, your picture with the tape tells a different story than a 1.75 socket.

You obviously don't need to waste your time on the $50 saber. It is obviously worth no more than shipping costs to me

Cheers

GC

I think I measured that dimension after returning home from the aforementioned watering hole.
The part about langets having been removed was my guess so we'll never really know for sure.

That rusty old sabre...meh.

Thanks again gentlemen.