Ottoman Turkish 1909 pattern officers' sword

[Battara]

Thanks for posting. Never seen one of these before.

[Jim McDougall]

Now THAT is interesting!!!
Where are these identified by this classification?
Records on Ottoman military arms of these times are pretty esoteric.

[drac2k]

Once I figured out what I thought it could be,and narrowed it down and found it, I punched in Ottoman Turkish 1909 Officers' "D," guard short sword and came up with a site www.ottoman-uniforms.com among other sites.
I hadn't encountered these before as well.
I was also surprised that the sword scabbards do not have a drag, should be black and come with a frog.

[TVV]

Originally Posted by Jim McDougall

Now THAT is interesting!!!
Where are these identified by this classification?
Records on Ottoman military arms of these times are pretty esoteric.

Actually, it is not that esoteric at all. There is a recent book in Russian called "Холодное оружие Османской империи и Албании" by Branko Bogdanovich which deals with this topic. Forum rules would not allow posting a link to the publisher, but if you simply copy and paste the title in Google, you should be able to find the web site easily.

The same publisher has a series of books on edged weapons military patterns for all Balkan countries, but these are topics that fall outside of my interests and the scope of this forum.

Sincerely,
Teodor

[Jim McDougall]

Originally Posted by TVV

Actually, it is not that esoteric at all. There is a recent book in Russian called "Холодное оружие Османской империи и Албании" by Branko Bogdanovich which deals with this topic. Forum rules would not allow posting a link to the publisher, but if you simply copy and paste the title in Google, you should be able to find the web site easily.

The same publisher has a series of books on edged weapons military patterns for all Balkan countries, but these are topics that fall outside of my interests and the scope of this forum.

Sincerely,
Teodor

Oh, THAT book Teodor!! Actually I was waitin' for the movie and my Russian is a bit rusty.
I guess I meant, references on Ottoman military arms are 'relatively' esoteric as far as I knew for us average Joe's .
Drac, thank you for the heads up on this site, which indeed offers amazing information on the arms and uniforms of the Ottoman army in these modern times ( maybe modern wrong term.....lets say late 19th early 20thc ).
I had forgotten about these militaria magazines and sites and now that these are online, much more accessible.

I guess its just knowing where to look . Thanks very much, very interesting look at 'somewhat little discussed' weapons of the Ottomans.

[drac2k]

You are certainly welcome ;I found it by pure accident. I bookmarked it myself, as it is a good reference source .

[estcrh]

Originally Posted by Jim McDougall

Oh, THAT book Teodor!! Actually I was waitin' for the movie and my Russian is a bit rusty.
I guess I meant, references on Ottoman military arms are 'relatively' esoteric as far as I knew for us average Joe's .
Drac, thank you for the heads up on this site, which indeed offers amazing information on the arms and uniforms of the Ottoman army in these modern times ( maybe modern wrong term.....lets say late 19th early 20thc ).
I had forgotten about these militaria magazines and sites and now that these are online, much more accessible.

I guess its just knowing where to look . Thanks very much, very interesting look at 'somewhat little discussed' weapons of the Ottomans.

To bad there is no English version.

For the first time in Russian, the book of Serbian leading specialist in the history of weapons Branko Bogdanovich, which details the little-known topic - cold steel of the Ottoman Empire, and Albania, and continues the series "Military Science of the Balkan countries." In the book of collected and systematized all the samples of bladed weapons used in the Turkish and Albanian armies since their inception until the end of the XX century. A detailed study, accompanied by numerous illustrations, allow to imagine a complete picture of standing, front and premium cold arms of these countries. Combining the quality of the paint and the album directory, this book will be especially useful to historians, oruzhievedam, collectors and all those interested in the military history of the Balkans.