Keris Madura with Thai influences

A. G. Maisey · 1st November 2015, 11:23 PM

David, I think Max might be talking about the keris itself, ie, the blade, rather than the dress around the blade.

There is a school of thought that holds that only the blade is the keris, all else is irrelevant.

David · 2nd November 2015, 12:54 AM

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Originally Posted by A. G. Maisey

David, I think Max might be talking about the keris itself, ie, the blade, rather than the dress around the blade.

There is a school of thought that holds that only the blade is the keris, all else is irrelevant.

Understood Alan, but without an image of the blade (or even with one) the point is moot...

A. G. Maisey · 2nd November 2015, 01:13 AM

Sorry David, my error, I was looking the keris in post #4.

maxbliss888 · 2nd November 2015, 09:10 AM

I think you all are right as there were alot of cross fertilization across Southern Thai/Northen Malaysia and Sumatra and the region...

I think the Coteng and the Tajong have a stronger Southern Thai/Northern Malaysia identities...

maxbliss888 · 2nd November 2015, 09:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by A. G. Maisey

David, I think Max might be talking about the keris itself, ie, the blade, rather than the dress around the blade.

There is a school of thought that holds that only the blade is the keris, all else is irrelevant.

Yes, I was referring to the blade itself. Sorry for the error as I was using my Ipad for my previous message and my ipad got hanged owing to the poor network...

David · 2nd November 2015, 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by maxbliss888

Yes, I was referring to the blade itself. Sorry for the error as I was using my Ipad for my previous message and my ipad got hanged owing to the poor network...

No worries Max, but we still can't comment unless you are willing to post this particular blade.

Sajen · 3rd November 2015, 01:50 AM

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Originally Posted by David

No worries Max, but we still can't comment unless you are willing to post this particular blade.

Hello David,

when i don't get something completely wrong speak/ask Max about the shown Cherita blade in post #1 and 4.

To answer Max's query, IMVHO is the blade with the scabbard very good fitting, only the hilt from Madura look "strange", i.e. not suitable for the combination.

Regards,
Detlef

maxbliss888 · 3rd November 2015, 10:32 AM

Please see the blade

maxbliss888 · 3rd November 2015, 10:32 AM

Another

maxbliss888 · 3rd November 2015, 10:35 AM

Photo before and after restoration

3rd November 2015, 10:32 AM	#8
maxbliss888 Member Join Date: May 2015 Location: Bangkok Posts: 150	Blade Please see the blade Attached Images

3rd November 2015, 10:32 AM	#9
maxbliss888 Member Join Date: May 2015 Location: Bangkok Posts: 150	Blade Another Attached Images

3rd November 2015, 10:35 AM	#10
maxbliss888 Member Join Date: May 2015 Location: Bangkok Posts: 150	Before and after restoration of the scabbard Photo before and after restoration Attached Images

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1st November 2015, 11:23 PM	#1
A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 7,048	David, I think Max might be talking about the keris itself, ie, the blade, rather than the dress around the blade. There is a school of thought that holds that only the blade is the keris, all else is irrelevant.

2nd November 2015, 01:13 AM	#3
A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 7,048	Sorry David, my error, I was looking the keris in post #4.

2nd November 2015, 09:10 AM	#4
maxbliss888 Member Join Date: May 2015 Location: Bangkok Posts: 150	Keris I think you all are right as there were alot of cross fertilization across Southern Thai/Northen Malaysia and Sumatra and the region... I think the Coteng and the Tajong have a stronger Southern Thai/Northern Malaysia identities...