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Old 25th October 2015, 07:31 PM   #1
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Old 25th October 2015, 11:14 PM   #2
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Did you know that the lasso was also used, although it was not considered as a noble weapon?
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Old 26th October 2015, 04:33 AM   #3
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Did you know that the lasso was also used, although it was not considered as a noble weapon?
According to Shahnamah, the lasso was used extensively in combat, mainly to capture and drag enemies. It is mentioned as one of the many tools/weapons carried by a warrior.
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Old 27th October 2015, 02:36 PM   #4
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Excellent, thank you Mercenary! Now if anyone could get a shot from the original manuscript or one of its copies/facsimile that would be great

Jens and AJ, very interesting about the lasso, I did not know that.
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Old 27th October 2015, 05:33 PM   #5
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If you have a look at the plate shown in post 3, I am wondering why some of the blades are so long.
Look at no 26 Jamdhar Doulicaneh and no 32 Jamdhar Skhlicaneh. They have two or three points, but I am wondering if, when you try to stap someone, the stap would stop quite early - or a very big force would be needed, and they would be no good against mail armour.
So why did they make Jandhars like that?
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Old 27th October 2015, 11:22 PM   #6
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Egerton explained Doulicaneh and Sehlicaneh as follows:

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"Doulicaneh" and "sehlicaneh", appear to be hybrid words (Pers. and Hind.)" "du-likhana," two-scratcher; "seh-likhana," three-scratcher. From likhana, to write or scratch - Note by Col.Yule.
I suppose the attached, South-Indian double-bladed (from Oriental-Arms) and triple-bladed (Tanjore, from Metropolitan Museum, bequest of George C. Stone) examples are representative. I don't think I've ever seen any other kind of two/three-pointed types, aside from the more modern scissor type.

Perhaps these were like the double-bladed bichwa. Less practical and effective, but more exotic and fearsome than a single blade
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Old 28th October 2015, 03:51 PM   #7
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I wrote the proper pronunciations for this image, there is another image with Farsi names if you can get me a better copy of it I can do the same.
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