Turkish flintlock pistol nicely decorated

estcrh · 5th February 2015, 01:03 PM

Here is a comparison of forum members Ottoman pistols, three of Cerjaks, Kubers, Bandooks and my pair. All very similar with Kubers showing the most difference in my opinion with the front of the barrel being encased in metal.

estcrh · 5th February 2015, 01:32 PM

The obviously different forum members pistols, three Albanian rat tail pistols, Bandooks, Kubers and mine, and Bandooks Algerian pistol.

trenchwarfare · 5th February 2015, 02:32 PM

The Algerian, may be Algerian, but I don't think it's a real gun. I've seen, and owned many decorators, with the same hammer, and aluminum furniture. The sheet metal trigger guard is another giveaway. More detailed photos might prove me wrong.

BANDOOK · 19th May 2015, 01:47 AM

JUST GOT THIS ONE RECENTLY AND WOULD LIKE TO SHARE IT HERE,BEATIFUL DECORATIONS ON THE METAL AND WOOD,CHEERS

Kubur · 19th May 2015, 09:13 AM

Hi Rajesh,
Interesting barrel.
The pistol seems to have been used and reused.
They transformed the flintlock into a percussion.
You will have a lot of work to restore the stock, I can see a big crack and a modern screw...
As you said nice woodcarving, as you may know, they (the people from the Balkans) copied the Italian wooden stock.
Best,
Kubur

BANDOOK · 19th May 2015, 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Kubur

Hi Rajesh,
Interesting barrel.
The pistol seems to have been used and reused.
They transformed the flintlock into a percussion.
You will have a lot of work to restore the stock, I can see a big crack and a modern screw...
As you said nice woodcarving, as you may know, they (the people from the Balkans) copied the Italian wooden stock.
Best,
Kubur

hi kubur thanks ,I got it cheap so I just picked it up,they have so much character ,no pistol is the same,its not in great condition,but just a filler for my pistol collection,where do you think its from??,cheers mate

rickystl · 25th May 2015, 04:30 PM

Hi Bandook.
That is a really interesting pistol you found. Converted to percussion back in the period. You don't see many of these conversions. Good find!! And your's shows the typical long, hard use many of these pistols endured. The cost and thus limited availability of percussion caps in the Region is likely why we find so few of these guns converted.
Cerjack: That's a nice example you originally posted. Actually, I like the looks of the all iron mountede pistols like your's even more than the brass mounted ones.
Also, great looking pistols all. I came in to this Thread a bit late.
Just by coincidence, I was going to Post two of these pistols this weekend. So I shall do so on a seperate Post since it is picture heavy. Also close up pics of the two variations of the "false" ramrods discussed above.
Rick.

kronckew · 25th May 2015, 05:20 PM

i imagine the inlaid depiction of the prophet's sword zul fiqar on the stock might help pin it down as a 'zulfiqar' pistol

rickystl · 25th May 2015, 06:06 PM

Now THAT is really neat!!!

Thanks for posting. Rick.

5th February 2015, 01:03 PM	#1
estcrh Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: USA Posts: 1,492	Here is a comparison of forum members Ottoman pistols, three of Cerjaks, Kubers, Bandooks and my pair. All very similar with Kubers showing the most difference in my opinion with the front of the barrel being encased in metal. Attached Images Last edited by estcrh; 5th February 2015 at 01:43 PM.

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estcrh Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: USA Posts: 1,492	The obviously different forum members pistols, three Albanian rat tail pistols, Bandooks, Kubers and mine, and Bandooks Algerian pistol. Attached Images

19th May 2015, 01:47 AM	#4
BANDOOK Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: AUCKLAND,NEW ZEALAND Posts: 627	OTTOMON\BALKAN OR GREEK JUST GOT THIS ONE RECENTLY AND WOULD LIKE TO SHARE IT HERE,BEATIFUL DECORATIONS ON THE METAL AND WOOD,CHEERS Attached Images

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kronckew Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Room 101, Glos. UK Posts: 4,227	i imagine the inlaid depiction of the prophet's sword zul fiqar on the stock might help pin it down as a 'zulfiqar' pistol Attached Images

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5th February 2015, 02:32 PM	#3
trenchwarfare Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 385	The Algerian, may be Algerian, but I don't think it's a real gun. I've seen, and owned many decorators, with the same hammer, and aluminum furniture. The sheet metal trigger guard is another giveaway. More detailed photos might prove me wrong.

19th May 2015, 09:13 AM	#5
Kubur Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Posts: 2,145	Hi Rajesh, Interesting barrel. The pistol seems to have been used and reused. They transformed the flintlock into a percussion. You will have a lot of work to restore the stock, I can see a big crack and a modern screw... As you said nice woodcarving, as you may know, they (the people from the Balkans) copied the Italian wooden stock. Best, Kubur

25th May 2015, 04:30 PM	#7
rickystl Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: St. Louis, MO area. Posts: 1,632	Hi Bandook. That is a really interesting pistol you found. Converted to percussion back in the period. You don't see many of these conversions. Good find!! And your's shows the typical long, hard use many of these pistols endured. The cost and thus limited availability of percussion caps in the Region is likely why we find so few of these guns converted. Cerjack: That's a nice example you originally posted. Actually, I like the looks of the all iron mountede pistols like your's even more than the brass mounted ones. Also, great looking pistols all. I came in to this Thread a bit late. Just by coincidence, I was going to Post two of these pistols this weekend. So I shall do so on a seperate Post since it is picture heavy. Also close up pics of the two variations of the "false" ramrods discussed above. Rick.

25th May 2015, 06:06 PM	#9
rickystl Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: St. Louis, MO area. Posts: 1,632	Now THAT is really neat!!! Thanks for posting. Rick.