Luzon bolo with carved horn handle

Ian · 21st September 2014, 01:36 PM

That one came up very nicely with some cleaning Detlef. Nice pick up on your part.

I would also say circa 1900 based on the style of carving on the horn and probably of Ilocano manufacture judging from the blade and the "little pinky notch" on the hilt.

Sajen · 21st September 2014, 01:55 PM

Thank you Ian,

so I have three concurrent opinions regarding the age. But Jose write me before that he think it's a from the Tagalog, so a little bit more in the South.
I personally have problems to distinguish between Ilocano and Tagalog characteristics. Maybe a very good issue for a thread!

Regards,
Detlef

Ian · 21st September 2014, 02:18 PM

I would agree with Jose that the carving on the hilt looks like Central Luzon/Tagalog work. However, the blade and hilt style would fit well with features consistent with Ilocano manufacture.

Often hard to distinguish between Ilocano work of northern Luzon and that from central Luzon/Tagalog areas. From what I have read here there seems to be diverse opinions about what comprises Ilocano styles and materials. There are a few features that I feel reasonably comfortable with in attributing pieces to the Ilocano, but those are better left to a thread devoted to the topic and with some well documented/provenanced pieces. Even so, it will be hard to make strict distinctions because of the blurring of traditional styles in recent years.

Sajen · 21st September 2014, 02:32 PM

Thank you again Ian for the further remarks, maybe I will start a thread about this issue.

Regards,
Detlef

carlos · 21st September 2014, 02:40 PM

Very good adquisition, I love this carving hilt !! I was the second in the auction .

Im happy to see finally you was the winner.
If some day decided to sell it ...

thanks again and enjoy it !

Carlos

Sajen · 21st September 2014, 02:46 PM

Thank you Carlos,

when I need to sell it one day I will remember you!

Regards,
Detlef

Robert · 21st September 2014, 06:31 PM

WOW, it has indeed cleaned up very nicely. Makes me wonder now if I made the right choice in making my offer on the one I did and not bid on this instead. Add me to the list of potential new owners if you ever get tired of looking at this.

Best,
Robert

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21st September 2014, 01:36 PM	#1
Ian Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: The Aussie Bush Posts: 4,399	That one came up very nicely with some cleaning Detlef. Nice pick up on your part. I would also say circa 1900 based on the style of carving on the horn and probably of Ilocano manufacture judging from the blade and the "little pinky notch" on the hilt.

21st September 2014, 01:55 PM	#2
Sajen Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Germany, Dortmund Posts: 9,214	Thank you Ian, so I have three concurrent opinions regarding the age. But Jose write me before that he think it's a from the Tagalog, so a little bit more in the South. I personally have problems to distinguish between Ilocano and Tagalog characteristics. Maybe a very good issue for a thread! Regards, Detlef

21st September 2014, 02:18 PM	#3
Ian Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: The Aussie Bush Posts: 4,399	I would agree with Jose that the carving on the hilt looks like Central Luzon/Tagalog work. However, the blade and hilt style would fit well with features consistent with Ilocano manufacture. Often hard to distinguish between Ilocano work of northern Luzon and that from central Luzon/Tagalog areas. From what I have read here there seems to be diverse opinions about what comprises Ilocano styles and materials. There are a few features that I feel reasonably comfortable with in attributing pieces to the Ilocano, but those are better left to a thread devoted to the topic and with some well documented/provenanced pieces. Even so, it will be hard to make strict distinctions because of the blurring of traditional styles in recent years.

21st September 2014, 02:32 PM	#4
Sajen Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Germany, Dortmund Posts: 9,214	Thank you again Ian for the further remarks, maybe I will start a thread about this issue. Regards, Detlef

21st September 2014, 02:40 PM	#5
carlos Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 751	Very good adquisition, I love this carving hilt !! I was the second in the auction . Im happy to see finally you was the winner. If some day decided to sell it ... thanks again and enjoy it ! Carlos

21st September 2014, 02:46 PM	#6
Sajen Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Germany, Dortmund Posts: 9,214	Thank you Carlos, when I need to sell it one day I will remember you! Regards, Detlef

21st September 2014, 06:31 PM	#7
Robert EAAF Staff Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Centerville, Kansas Posts: 2,196	WOW, it has indeed cleaned up very nicely. Makes me wonder now if I made the right choice in making my offer on the one I did and not bid on this instead. Add me to the list of potential new owners if you ever get tired of looking at this. Best, Robert