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27th November 2005, 03:38 PM
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Vikingsword Staff
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Robert:
Zel is the authority on these pieces and I'm sure he will give you a considered answer about the name and age of this one. Based on some of his previous comments, I think the term for this one is a tenegre from Panay. As for age, mid-20th C. would seem about right. As you note, the guard appears to have been mounted upside down, suggesting the hilt has been replaced or reattached at some time. The longer section is usually a partial knuckle bow, mostly on 20th C. pieces. I look forward to Zel's comments. Ian. |
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28th November 2005, 03:27 AM
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Ian,
Could you possible tell me where I could get pitch to reset the blade into the hilt? I've removed it to put the guard in the right position and would like to use pitch to reset the blade. I'm thinking that at some point in time it came loose and who ever it was that put it back together used Elmer's Glue to put it back in one piece. Thankfully they didn't use epoxy instead! As to the age I was thinking that with the ferrell being made of brass sheeting formed and soldiered to form it that it was hopefully pre WWII. Robert |
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28th November 2005, 12:37 PM
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Robert:
I've sent you a PM. A brazed brass ferrule would likely indicate pre-WWII manufacture. Ian. |
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28th November 2005, 11:12 PM
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....or Negros?
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29th November 2005, 12:20 AM
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its a sundang....
grrr... |
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29th November 2005, 01:15 AM
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Seems like a pretty generic term . A sundang from Panay , Negros ? |
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29th November 2005, 01:21 AM
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I certainly wouldn't argue that this blade might be referred to as a sundang in some places, but sundang, it would seem, is a rather general term for a sword and refers also to the kris as well as other sword length blades of the region. Surely there is a more specific name for this type of weapon. Why are you so vigorously opposed to the term "tenegre" which Ian and i believe Zel are apt to use? It seems to me that to call this blade a sundang will only add to the confusion. |
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