keris sajen majapahit marks

[Rick]

Originally Posted by Pusaka

Anyway onwards and upwards, my purpose of making this thread is to establish if these keris markings follow numeric patterns, old vs newer, odd/even, 3,5,7,9 who knows maybe even numbers too.

Absolutely, onward and upward .

[Pusaka]

The supposed 250 year old 32 paged (interesting number) keris manuscript depicts the Taming sari to have been a keris Picit. Have not read much about the legends surrounding this keris to know if it is consistently depicted as such.
The manuscript goes into detail about such markings but from a Sufi perspective or at least a Sufi interpretation of such markings.

[David]

Originally Posted by Pusaka

The supposed 250 year old 32 paged (interesting number) keris manuscript depicts the Taming sari to have been a keris Picit. Have not read much about the legends surrounding this keris to know if it is consistently depicted as such.
The manuscript goes into detail about such markings but from a Sufi perspective or at least a Sufi interpretation of such markings.

Well, onward perhaps, but i'm not convinced about upwards. Taming Sari is a keris steeped in legend so if the goal of your enquiry is to find out facts about keris picit this might not be the best path for you.
BTW, Taming Sari is supposedly part of the Perak royal regalia and that keris at least is not a keris picit. It would probably not be consistent to legend for Taming Sari to be keris picit since the legends tend to speak of it as a martial weapon, not a talismanic one. I have never seen a keris picit that was meant for or would be suitable for martial activity. They are purely talismanic blades.

[Pusaka]

You failed to understand/interpret the diagram on the left I take it then

[David]

Originally Posted by Pusaka

You failed to understand/interpret the diagram on the left I take it then

Perhaps you can tell us how you interpret it. Unfortunately i don't read the language. Perhaps you can give us an accurate translation since it seems you do.
Of course, simply because a document exists, even one that is 250 years old, that claims to diagram Taming Sari does not mean that it is an accurate description of the actual blade which is supposed to be much older than that in origin. I also wonder about the value of Sufi interpretations about a Mojopahit blade that came out of Hindu cultural context.
BTW, here are images of the blade that in held with the Perak regalia. There seems to be at least some legitimate provenance regarding its lineage, though there are some gaps and questions to be sure. Separating fact from fiction in these cases is always a challenge, often an impossible one.
You might want to actually read up on Taming Sari since you admit that you are not really up on the legends. Interesting story…

[Pusaka]

David

I cant read it either, but the diagram is enough.

[David]

Originally Posted by Pusaka

David

I cant read it either, but the diagram is enough.

Hmmm…and what do you think that diagram is telling you?