The Original Dhu'l-Faqar

[AhmedH]

Originally Posted by Ibrahiim al Balooshi

Salaams Ahmed .. Yes you are probably right ... The catalogue is really just a series of designer photographs with not a lot of detail and was done at the opening of the museum I think... Any later work entering the museum would, as you say, be put into their research department and or placed for conservation etc... I am not able to visit as its a very long haul by car and by plane but I will see if any friends are going that way...

I had a look at the inscription and yes I noted the numbers but couldnt read those. I also think its Farsi ... my accountant reads it as I put earlier but that may be incorrect... can you decipher the numbers?
Regards,
Ibrahiim al Balooshi.

Salaams Ibrahiim!

Thanks a lot for the info regarding the Doha Museum and the possibility of its storerooms containing arms and armor dating back to the Crusades and the Ayyubids and Mamluks.

Sorrowfully, I'm unable to decipher the numbers. WOW! These inscriptions are harder to define and read far more than those on Dhu'l-Faqar! So your accountant was unable to read the "Farsi" inscriptions? Then these inscriptions are not Farsi, I suggest.

Please forgive me, Ibrahiim, but I'm doing what I could possibly do regarding reading these inscriptions. Please forgive me for my limitations, buddy!

Yours faithfully,
Ahmed Helal Hussein

[Ibrahiim al Balooshi]

Originally Posted by AhmedH

Salaams Ibrahiim!

Thanks a lot for the info regarding the Doha Museum and the possibility of its storerooms containing arms and armor dating back to the Crusades and the Ayyubids and Mamluks.

Sorrowfully, I'm unable to decipher the numbers. WOW! These inscriptions are harder to define and read far more than those on Dhu'l-Faqar! So your accountant was unable to read the "Farsi" inscriptions? Then these inscriptions are not Farsi, I suggest.

Please forgive me, Ibrahiim, but I'm doing what I could possibly do regarding reading these inscriptions. Please forgive me for my limitations, buddy!

Yours faithfully,
Ahmed Helal Hussein

Salaams Ahmed, The latest information from friends who just returned from Doha is that the Museum had an exhibition of weapons from the era you mention...and just recently.
You are doing great on these inscriptions on blades...many thanks.
Regards,
Ibrahiim al Balooshi.

[AhmedH]

Originally Posted by Ibrahiim al Balooshi

Salaams Ahmed, The latest information from friends who just returned from Doha is that the Museum had an exhibition of weapons from the era you mention...and just recently.
You are doing great on these inscriptions on blades...many thanks.
Regards,
Ibrahiim al Balooshi.

Salaams Ibrahiim,

First of all: Thanks for your magnanimity! Second thing: WOW! That's great news! So what Dr. Alexander had told me back in 2008 has been fulfilled! It must have taken the restoration and preservation teams quite an effort to get these excavated items back to shape in order to be fit for such an exhibition. Any more information in that regard shall be highly appreciated, buddy.

Thanks a lot!

Best regards,
Ahmed Helal Hussein

[AhmedH]

Originally Posted by Ibrahiim al Balooshi

Salaams Ahmed, The latest information from friends who just returned from Doha is that the Museum had an exhibition of weapons from the era you mention...and just recently.
You are doing great on these inscriptions on blades...many thanks.
Regards,
Ibrahiim al Balooshi.

Salaams Ibrahiim,

Here is some information about this exhibition:

http://thepeninsulaqatar.com/news/qa...rom-collection

Best regards,
Ahmed Helal Hussein

[AhmedH]

Originally Posted by Ibrahiim al Balooshi

Salaams Ahmed, The latest information from friends who just returned from Doha is that the Museum had an exhibition of weapons from the era you mention...and just recently.
You are doing great on these inscriptions on blades...many thanks.
Regards,
Ibrahiim al Balooshi.

Salaams Ibrahiim,

I've found a few Arab swords dating back to the 12th-15th centuries CE (according to the data provided by the Museum). Here's the link:

http://www.mia.org.qa/en/collections/search-collections

It seems that this museum really has some serious stuff!

Best regards,
Ahmed Helal Hussein

[Ibrahiim al Balooshi]

Originally Posted by AhmedH

Salaams Ibrahiim,

I've found a few Arab swords dating back to the 12th-15th centuries CE (according to the data provided by the Museum). Here's the link:

http://www.mia.org.qa/en/collections/search-collections

It seems that this museum really has some serious stuff!

Best regards,
Ahmed Helal Hussein

Salaams Ahmed, Yes they have some top quality exhibits, however, I think what is shown in your link is the same as their big format catalogue which I have at home so I will check later...Perhaps they have a lot of work still being restored... in their vaults...
Regards,
Ibrahiim al Balooshi.

[AhmedH]

Originally Posted by Ibrahiim al Balooshi

Salaams Ahmed, Yes they have some top quality exhibits, however, I think what is shown in your link is the same as their big format catalogue which I have at home so I will check later...Perhaps they have a lot of work still being restored... in their vaults...
Regards,
Ibrahiim al Balooshi.

Salaams Ibrahiim,

Thank you very much for this very important information. The more swords there are, the better!

Best regards,
Ahmed Helal Hussein

[AhmedH]

Salaams all!

It seems that, in this site, there's little to no interest in the early medieval Arab swords. It's quite clear that the real interest is in more recent swords and other edged weapons that could be owned privately. I understand this well.

Nonetheless, if anyone is interested in information regarding swords or other weapons that date back to the early centuries of Islam, I'd be more than happy to send my help.

Best wishes to all!

-Ahmed Helal Hussein-

[Ibrahiim al Balooshi]

Originally Posted by AhmedH

Salaams all!

It seems that, in this site, there's little to no interest in the early medieval Arab swords. It's quite clear that the real interest is in more recent swords and other edged weapons that could be owned privately. I understand this well.

Nonetheless, if anyone is interested in information regarding swords or other weapons that date back to the early centuries of Islam, I'd be more than happy to send my help.

Best wishes to all!

-Ahmed Helal Hussein-

Salaams Ahmed.. Not so ! This is an ultra specialized subject Ahmed and we are lucky to have your input on this hugely important Iconic weapon... of equal importance to say the Sword Excalibur in Western parlance and utterly vital in Eastern terms being of such provenance.
As you know I am of the opinion that this is a classic and I feel certain it will be admitted to that hall of fame soon... I would ask you for some pictures so that they can also speak volumes for your thesis and so that members and others can see at a glance what is staring up at them ... This subject is not only of vital importance from the Islamic viewpoint but across the frontiers of sword research ... and such is its importance that the Topkapi will have to make a special room for it if they have not already done so!!

Regards,
Ibrahiim al Balooshi.

[Richard Furrer]

Originally Posted by AhmedH

Salaams all!

It seems that, in this site, there's little to no interest in the early medieval Arab swords. It's quite clear that the real interest is in more recent swords and other edged weapons that could be owned privately. I understand this well.

Nonetheless, if anyone is interested in information regarding swords or other weapons that date back to the early centuries of Islam, I'd be more than happy to send my help.

Best wishes to all!

-Ahmed Helal Hussein-

Hello,
I am very interested in early swords of all locations. However the information I wish to know has not been gathered. The "nuts and bolts" of swords is the steel...and we have scant few analysis of the steels in these blades...and I fear we never will.

Ric