help on a strange sword , translation on arab inscription ...

Timo Nieminen · 11th December 2013, 11:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Ibrahiim al Balooshi

Salaams Timo Nieminen, I think it is a mixture but based on a new Chinese sword as at the start of your post. I think the top ring on the pommel has snapped off...on which the tassel would have been tied. The crossguard is odd.

I've never seen a Chinese-style sword with a wheel pommel (or wheel pommel + peen block, or wheel pommel + ring). If you're thinking of a specific example, I'd be interested in seeing it.

The shape of the pommel is very European. The decoration on the pommel is not. Here is an example of a modern replica with this shape pommel: http://www.myarmoury.com/talk/viewtopic.php?t=14705

This particular sword might be inspired by a famous sword. Here is a review of a replica, with original for comparison: http://www.myarmoury.com/review_aa_hen.html

(David, I haven't seen a blade like this on modern replica/fantasy stuff out of China. Unless the lighting exaggerates the waviness and unevenness of the blade.)

BerberDagger · 12th December 2013, 01:31 AM

Hi at all , thank you for all the comment ... I show it to an expert here , his comment was that sword is 19th century hilt and guard and very well made ( pics dont made justice ...not new 19th century of sure , olso wood and leather heandle is not modern) .. the blade is damascus steel and probably 18th century ..so a composite sword probably in the spanish moorish 15th century style ... its is his opinion ..

BerberDagger · 12th December 2013, 01:32 AM

can i have a pics or link of the fantasy chinese sword similar ?

BerberDagger · 12th December 2013, 01:57 AM

here others pics

RSWORD · 12th December 2013, 02:05 AM

Would it be possible to see a close up picture or two of the Damascus blade? This should at least tell us something about the blade And the type of steel.

BerberDagger · 12th December 2013, 02:14 AM

here a detail.

Ibrahiim al Balooshi · 12th December 2013, 06:33 PM

Salaams All, Not being expert in Chinese weapons ... It does however strike me that the blade profile which by the way I can see no evidence of Damascening wootz or any such pattern... is like/similar to modern Chinese martial arts Tai Chi sword blades. It also looks faintly theatrical... I may be wrong ... The Pommel looks like it has Chinese(shapes) around the inner circle and the pommel ring looks missing from the top... where a tassel would normally be tied. The small rings top and base of the hilt look Chinese in style.

It inspires me to look more closely at the broader subject of Chinese Swords.

Regards,
Ibrahiim al Balooshi.

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12th December 2013, 01:31 AM	#2
BerberDagger Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 247	Hi at all , thank you for all the comment ... I show it to an expert here , his comment was that sword is 19th century hilt and guard and very well made ( pics dont made justice ...not new 19th century of sure , olso wood and leather heandle is not modern) .. the blade is damascus steel and probably 18th century ..so a composite sword probably in the spanish moorish 15th century style ... its is his opinion ..

12th December 2013, 01:32 AM	#3
BerberDagger Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 247	can i have a pics or link of the fantasy chinese sword similar ?

12th December 2013, 02:05 AM	#5
RSWORD Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Greensboro, NC Posts: 1,095	Would it be possible to see a close up picture or two of the Damascus blade? This should at least tell us something about the blade And the type of steel.

12th December 2013, 06:33 PM	#7
Ibrahiim al Balooshi Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Buraimi Oman, on the border with the UAE Posts: 4,408	Salaams All, Not being expert in Chinese weapons ... It does however strike me that the blade profile which by the way I can see no evidence of Damascening wootz or any such pattern... is like/similar to modern Chinese martial arts Tai Chi sword blades. It also looks faintly theatrical... I may be wrong ... The Pommel looks like it has Chinese(shapes) around the inner circle and the pommel ring looks missing from the top... where a tassel would normally be tied. The small rings top and base of the hilt look Chinese in style. It inspires me to look more closely at the broader subject of Chinese Swords. Regards, Ibrahiim al Balooshi.