New Maguindanao Kris Form

[manteris1]

a good shot, well done...................jimmy

[Spunjer]

The resemblance between that and Datu Piang's kris is so uncanny. With all the bling associated with it, it might just be his, or a part of his personal collection...

[Sajen]

Hello Jose,

you are going to replace your stolen weapons with even better pieces! I have seen by the auction photos that it is a beauty but that it is so nice......

Maybe you should built up a scabbard like on the picture from Datu Piang, when not the same kris it will be the same manufacturer.

Regards,

Detlef

[Battara]

Originally Posted by Sajen

Hello Jose,

you are going to replace your stolen weapons with even better pieces! I have seen by the auction photos that it is a beauty but that it is so nice......

Maybe you should built up a scabbard like on the picture from Datu Pinang, when not the same kris it will be the same manufacturer.

Regards,

Detlef

I thought about that, but decided that the new scabbard should be in keeping with the original spirit of the piece, as close to the old scabbard as possible.

[VVV]

Wow!!!

Great that you won it, Jose, and that it has so many hidden bonuses.
It was on my watch list, too but I was out and forgot to set my sniper.
I would never had suspected that the hilt was solid swassa…

Michael

[Battara]

Originally Posted by Spunjer

The resemblance between that and Datu Piang's kris is so uncanny. With all the bling associated with it, it might just be his, or a part of his personal collection...

Oh I would love it if it were. That is why I was so disappointed when the seller told me that his contract with the family is not to divulge the identity of the previous owner.

When I first stumbled unto this kris, I remembered this picture of Datu Piang with his kris that has puzzled me for years. I have tried in vain to research his type of kris. No documentation, no example found, not even a type mentioned in Cato or anyone else.

So when I saw this, I knew that this was unique and perhaps the only other example known in the world (so far). I had to have it and restore it/clean it up and research it.

[Spunjer]

Originally Posted by Battara

When I first stumbled unto this kris, I remembered this picture of Datu Piang with his kris that has puzzled me for years. I have tried in vain to research his type of kris. No documentation, no example found, not even a type mentioned in Cato or anyone else.

Datu Piang's kris is unique, but i don't think it's a different type. the pommel is the smaller abbreviated type sarimanok minus the tail and neck. what makes it looks so different is the way the wing-like protrusion is expressed by the craftsman; chased, rather than one solid piece. also the excellent ukkil presentation just above the ferrule. which makes me think it was done by the same craftsman who did Piang's kris on the photo.
really glad that you got it, tho, Jose. now that you posted the picture, it really answered a lot of questions on what was going on with the kris old man Amai Mingka (Piang) was holding. to compare those two is just amazing!!!

[VANDOO]

WOW!! AND THE MAGICIAN PULLS ANOTHER RARE TREASURE OUT OF HIS HAT. ITS GREAT WHEN KNOWLEGE, PERSERVERENCE, MONEY AND EXCEPTIONAL LUCK ALL COME TOGETHER FOR SUCH A GREAT FIND. IT COULDN'T HAPPEN TO A NICER GUY. CONGRADULATIONS.

[Spunjer]

Originally Posted by Battara

When I first stumbled unto this kris, I remembered this picture of Datu Piang with his kris that has puzzled me for years. I have tried in vain to research his type of kris. No documentation, no example found, not even a type mentioned in Cato or anyone else.

ok, lemme go slow on this one...

as far as the handle, the shape is similar to this one:

[Spunjer]

...on the picture posted above, notice how the tail part and the front part are blunt. here's the same picture, encircled this time. and also a picture of your Piang's kris, encircled at the same spots. i also added another kris that has similar designed pommel.