Non Moro ,Mandaya? sword

slow · 25th October 2005, 08:52 PM

Based on my very limited knowledge, I could hazard a guess and call it a ginunting. The angle of the blade in relation to the handle and the "false edge" would hint in this direction. The handle seems a bit unusual for a ginunting, (usually there are finger grooves) but my experience is only with more recent pieces. A very nice looking weapon, nevertheless. Congratulations on the purchase.

zelbone · 26th October 2005, 05:26 AM

This one is odd...although I really doubt that it is Mandaya. The ferrule looks Visayan, but the pommel is odd. Bangkung, binangon, binakoko? Ginunting would be appropriate as well. Post better pics when you get it.

BTW, Justin, no hard feelings

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Justin · 26th October 2005, 02:22 PM

Thanks ,Zel

Ill try to get better pics up within a day or two.

Bill · 26th October 2005, 03:09 PM

Doubt the sword is from the Philippines. The hilt has a Sumatra influence. The ferrule is simular to some Nias work, but a little crude. The blade form is pretty common. It could really come from many places in Indonesia, but I would look closer to Sumatra, then any where else.

Mark · 26th October 2005, 03:30 PM

I have an almost identical one that I have been trying to identify for years. It was my first ethnographic sword purchase, in fact, and the subject of my first-ever post on the EEWRS.

I don't have pictures, but I'll take some and post.

Justin · 29th October 2005, 05:51 PM

Sorry I havent posted in awhile,Im having car and computer problems so its been a little busy around here.

Bill:

I didnt really think about Indonesia but its an interesting theory,the horse hoof hilt does look very Sumatran to me.

Mark:Id love to see pics of your sword, maybe it will help narrow down the posible origins of these swords.

Justin · 11th December 2005, 11:33 PM

Sorry for the really long delay,here are a few more pics,hopefully there will be something in them to help provide a more definate id.

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25th October 2005, 08:52 PM	#1
slow Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Finland Posts: 3	Based on my very limited knowledge, I could hazard a guess and call it a ginunting. The angle of the blade in relation to the handle and the "false edge" would hint in this direction. The handle seems a bit unusual for a ginunting, (usually there are finger grooves) but my experience is only with more recent pieces. A very nice looking weapon, nevertheless. Congratulations on the purchase.

26th October 2005, 05:26 AM	#2
zelbone Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: VISAYAS and MINDANAO Posts: 169	This one is odd...although I really doubt that it is Mandaya. The ferrule looks Visayan, but the pommel is odd. Bangkung, binangon, binakoko? Ginunting would be appropriate as well. Post better pics when you get it. BTW, Justin, no hard feelings !

26th October 2005, 02:22 PM	#3
Justin Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 182	Thanks ,Zel Ill try to get better pics up within a day or two.

26th October 2005, 03:09 PM	#4
Bill Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Chicago area Posts: 327	Doubt the sword is from the Philippines. The hilt has a Sumatra influence. The ferrule is simular to some Nias work, but a little crude. The blade form is pretty common. It could really come from many places in Indonesia, but I would look closer to Sumatra, then any where else.

26th October 2005, 03:30 PM	#5
Mark Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 987	I have an almost identical one that I have been trying to identify for years. It was my first ethnographic sword purchase, in fact, and the subject of my first-ever post on the EEWRS. I don't have pictures, but I'll take some and post.

29th October 2005, 05:51 PM	#6
Justin Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 182	Sorry I havent posted in awhile,Im having car and computer problems so its been a little busy around here. Bill: I didnt really think about Indonesia but its an interesting theory,the horse hoof hilt does look very Sumatran to me. Mark:Id love to see pics of your sword, maybe it will help narrow down the posible origins of these swords.