Please help ID a Spadroon

fernando · 19th February 2013, 08:18 PM

I too would love to be able to read the wording, even not being able to translate/interpreter it; but the guy is the humbliest photographer.
I enticed him to take new and better pictures. I feel there is still more to go on this ID.

M ELEY · 20th February 2013, 05:16 AM

Very nice piece! Jim, I think you are right about grenadier, as the device on the extended guard does appear to be the typical 'flaming bomb' motiff. That might also indicate a French association, perhaps?

Hotspur · 21st February 2013, 03:16 AM

Perhaps in lieu of a better photo, the fellow could do his best in offering a transcription of the letters. Edit to add that the French spadroon blades ae usually more epee like without a full lebgth fuller to the point.

Neat sword.

Cheers

GC

Fernando K · 21st February 2013, 01:34 PM

E B E E N S G R I B P R O

P A T R I A E P A T R I A

(¿?)

Fernando K

Fernando K · 21st February 2013, 01:40 PM

E B E E N S G R I B / P A T R I A E

P R O / P A T R I A

Fernando K

fernando · 21st February 2013, 02:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fernando K

E B E E N S G R I B ...

Meaning ?

Richard G · 21st February 2013, 05:13 PM

Two little oddities I'd like to point out:-
1, It is not too difficult to see a grenade in the hilt, but as far as I am aware steel hilted English weapons of this time were pretty well restricted to light infantry or rifle regiments. Brass (gilt) would have been more normal.
2, The inscriptions on the forte are inscribed whereas the turks head etc. are etched. I have seen etching scribed for greater detail but this seems half and half.
Regards
Richard

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19th February 2013, 08:18 PM	#1
fernando (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Portugal Posts: 9,694	I too would love to be able to read the wording, even not being able to translate/interpreter it; but the guy is the humbliest photographer. I enticed him to take new and better pictures. I feel there is still more to go on this ID.

20th February 2013, 05:16 AM	#2
M ELEY Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: NC, U.S.A. Posts: 2,165	Very nice piece! Jim, I think you are right about grenadier, as the device on the extended guard does appear to be the typical 'flaming bomb' motiff. That might also indicate a French association, perhaps?

21st February 2013, 03:16 AM	#3
Hotspur Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Nipmuc USA Posts: 514	Perhaps in lieu of a better photo, the fellow could do his best in offering a transcription of the letters. Edit to add that the French spadroon blades ae usually more epee like without a full lebgth fuller to the point. Neat sword. Cheers GC

21st February 2013, 01:34 PM	#4
Fernando K Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 671	E B E E N S G R I B P R O P A T R I A E P A T R I A (¿?) Fernando K

21st February 2013, 01:40 PM	#5
Fernando K Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 671	E B E E N S G R I B / P A T R I A E P R O / P A T R I A Fernando K

21st February 2013, 05:13 PM	#7
Richard G Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 411	Two little oddities I'd like to point out:- 1, It is not too difficult to see a grenade in the hilt, but as far as I am aware steel hilted English weapons of this time were pretty well restricted to light infantry or rifle regiments. Brass (gilt) would have been more normal. 2, The inscriptions on the forte are inscribed whereas the turks head etc. are etched. I have seen etching scribed for greater detail but this seems half and half. Regards Richard