Figural !

[Battara]

Originally Posted by Battara

Ok here is my one and only ivory and gold Balinese hilt of Ravana.........

Sorry for not responding - thank you.

Also I did the gold mounts myself (hope they are not too aweful.... )

[Battara]

Did not realize there was such a variation of hilts......

[Sajen]

Originally Posted by Battara

Sorry for not responding - thank you.

Also I did the gold mounts myself (hope they are not too aweful.... )

Haven't realised that it isn't original!

[Jean]

Three peculiar Javanese hilts in figural style.
Regards

[Battara]

That last one - is that ivory and wood?

[David]

Originally Posted by Battara

That last one - is that ivory and wood?

Looks that way to me Rick. A more figural version of the "wadon" style of hilt that some folks call "durga". Very cool hilt whatever you call it...

[Jean]

Originally Posted by Battara

That last one - is that ivory and wood?

Yes, correct, ivory inserts on wood, the piece has some age.
And I attach 3 more javanese figural hilts including the "Durga" style mentioned by David.
Regards

[Sajen]

Just have bought this very fine carved ivory handle from the North coast of Java or Madura (picture from the ebay listing). Will post by time more handles of this type.

BTW, does someone know why ivory handles from North Java often are blackened?

[Jean]

Originally Posted by Sajen

BTW, does someone know why ivory handles from North Java often are blackened?

I have no idea in your case but I have one blackened tapak kuda hilt from Central Sumatra made from antler or bone (apparently not resin from the "dentist" drilling test of the peksi). In my case I think that the dying was made because these hilts are traditionally black but why was it not made from black buffalo horn? May be the former owner did not like the original white colour?

[Gustav]

Originally Posted by Sajen

Just have bought this very fine carved ivory handle from the North coast of Java or Madura (picture from the ebay listing). Will post by time more handles of this type.

BTW, does someone know why ivory handles from North Java often are blackened?

Sajen, I see some suspicious little bulbs on this hilt. I hope I am wrong.

[asian-keris]

Like

[Marcokeris]

I like too

[Rick]

Me 3.

[asomotif]

I like 4 delayed x-mas present.

ps do you have more pictures / back / side ?

[David]

I'll jump on the bandwagon...yowzah!!!

[Battara]

A little unusual - great example!

[ganjawulung]

Some cirebonese hilts with 'buta bajang' motives and also 'pulungan'...

Ganjawulung Collection

[ganjawulung]

Some cirebonese 'buta bajang' hilt and Rajamala of Tegal, Central Java....

Ganjawulung Collection

[A. G. Maisey]

Ex Puri Badung

[Jean]

Originally Posted by A. G. Maisey

Ex Puri Badung

What a masterpiece, congratulations!
Regards

[Jean]

Originally Posted by ganjawulung

Some cirebonese hilts with 'buta bajang' motives and also 'pulungan'...

Ganjawulung Collection

Dear Ganja,
What is the difference betwen the 2 types, I observe that some specimens wear a sort of crown and Garuda mungkur in the back, is it what makes the difference?
Regards

[HughChen]

hilt

[milandro]

Originally Posted by HughChen

hilt

Are you sure this is a Kris hilt?

I think that this may be a the hilt ( or rather the handle) of a Betelnut chisel or cutter

they are generally more ornate and have often this truncated cone shape

these were sold (terminated auction, therefore allowed) and in my view are similar

[David]

I am in agreement with Milandro. More likely a Betel Nut tool.

[A. G. Maisey]

Yes, pelecok.

[HughChen]

Originally Posted by milandro

Are you sure this is a Kris hilt?

I think that this may be a the hilt ( or rather the handle) of a Betelnut chisel or cutter

they are generally more ornate and have often this truncated cone shape

these were sold (terminated auction, therefore allowed) and in my view are similar

Originally Posted by David

I am in agreement with Milandro. More likely a Betel Nut tool.

Originally Posted by A. G. Maisey

Yes, pelecok.

I'm not sure. We thought it was a hilt. Maybe the Betelnut chisel and Keris sometimes share a handle by native users.

[A. G. Maisey]

No, I'm sorry HughChen, but a keris hilt & a pelecok are two entirely different things & they do not share hilts. The pelecok is a tool, the keris is a socio-religious icon & a weapon.

There can be no doubt about this.

[Sajen]

Originally Posted by HughChen

I'm not sure. We thought it was a hilt. Maybe the Betelnut chisel and Keris sometimes share a handle by native users.

Hello Chen,

I am with the others, it's a handle for a betel pestle, see here: http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...ighlight=betel

Regards,
Detlef

[HughChen]

Originally Posted by A. G. Maisey

No, I'm sorry HughChen, but a keris hilt & a pelecok are two entirely different things & they do not share hilts. The pelecok is a tool, the keris is a socio-religious icon & a weapon.

There can be no doubt about this.

Originally Posted by Sajen

Hello Chen,

I am with the others, it's a handle for a betel pestle, see here: http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...ighlight=betel

Regards,
Detlef

Thank you for correcting of my misunderstanding. Based on those pics,T think maybe this horn one is also not a hilt, while the wooden one is a Balinese hilt.

[David]

Originally Posted by HughChen

Thank you for correcting of my misunderstanding. Based on those pics,T think maybe this horn one is also not a hilt, while the wooden one is a Balinese hilt.

I'm not sure what in Detlef's link gave you that impression. IMO this horn figural hilt is indeed a keris hilt.