Kyber Collection

[trenchwarfare]

I have a severe case of C.A.D.D. (Collector's Attention Deficit Disorder) I find my niche, all the time! I did a close examination of all the blades with a glass. Without an etching, The only blade that's wootz, is the black Pesh-kabz. And, I think it has rhino grip panels!!! I'm not fimiliar to the properties of rhino, but I see a definate pattern, that's not found in bovine, or other type horn. The white dagger is deeply pitted, and has deep scratches from being "cleaned".

[Rick]

If you hold a Rhino hilt in your wet hand it will stick to the skin; not like glue, but it will not feel slippery that is .

[trenchwarfare]

It sticks!!!

[Rick]

Good for the 'wet work' .

[spiral]

O wow , dont know why i bother to post this, guess its just I like stuff like the truth & facts, rather than , imagination,supposition, old wives tales & fantasy. Close up photos particlarily of the end grain are neccasary to identify Rhino horn.

So many collectors seem unable to tell the differance between unusualy coloured & fiberous buffalo or goat horn & rhino. {Guess that makes a few dealers happy though. }

And after allAny horn thats realy dry will grab a sweaty paw in a fiberous thirsty manner!

If it rhino , Bukaran or some such, Its the differance between a $100 knife & a $1500 knife.

Good pics will tell the truth.

Spiral

[David R]

A nice collection, all in one go...so whatever the backstory, congrats. Re the whole Rhino horn thing, I do so wish there was a nice easy way of telling. I have a load of stuff that might or might not be, and one source says this, and another says that. IMHO if it ain't plastic , it's all good.

[Rick]

Try a forum search under rhino horn .
It's edifying .
Right to the 'point' in fact .
http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...ght=rhino+horn

[T. Koch]

Originally Posted by spiral

O wow , dont know why i bother to post this, guess its just I like stuff like the truth & facts, rather than , imagination,supposition, old wives tales & fantasy. Close up photos particlarily of the end grain are neccasary to identify Rhino horn.

So many collectors seem unable to tell the differance between unusualy coloured & fiberous buffalo or goat horn & rhino. {Guess that makes a few dealers happy though. }

And after allAny horn thats realy dry will grab a sweaty paw in a fiberous thirsty manner!

If it rhino , Bukaran or some such, Its the differance between a $100 knife & a $1500 knife.

Good pics will tell the truth.

Spiral

Preach it, Spiral my friend, you speak the truth! Macro shots of the grain - preferably, although not necessarily, a trans-sectional shot - are needed in order to confirm rhinoceros as source species. It's hard to say from the pictures at hand, because the handle in question is both very dark and in very good condition. In general, rhino horn doesn't tend to chip when damaged like bovine horn, but becomes more "thready" with age almost to the point of completely disintegrating on very old pieces.

Color alone is no indicator either. Rhino as well as bovine horn can both come in a wide pallette of colors and hues, from light honey, almost blonde, to pitch black.

*Trenchwarfare* If you could get some close-ups of the pesh hilt, I'd be happy to give you my opinion on the material.


All the best, - Thor

[Rick]

........

And do these stick to a wet hand ?
Yes .

Does dry horn stick, or feel the same ?
No .