BUGIS KERIS HILT MOTIF/ SIGNIFICANCE/ID??

David · 9th May 2012, 05:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sajen

Agree with the others, this hilt style is attributed to Jambi. Look here: http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...ighlight=jambi or here: http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...ighlight=jambi or here where can find also the hint to the Kris Disc from Jensen: http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...ighlight=jambi

Very beautiful hilt and keris, congrats!

Regards,

Detlef

Sorry Detlef, but the threads you linked to don't show hilts that look like this one to me. That doesn't discount Jambi, but this hilt is a distinctly different style to my eyes...

Henk · 9th May 2012, 07:00 PM

I have to agree with David. It is a Bugis keris in all ways. The carving on the hilt I would call extraordinary and well executed. Never seen something like this and probably made after the wishes of the former owner.

Sajen · 9th May 2012, 11:14 PM

Here all hilts side by side. Before I write an answer I want to see them byself side by side.

Sajen · 9th May 2012, 11:22 PM

Ok, after viewing them all four side by side I have to say that the hilt in question isn't so much "erected" like the three others but when I have to give an opinion about it's origin I still would guess Jambi but I don't want to put my hand in fire for my guess!

At last only the carver could give a certain answer if it is Jambi in origin but I doubt that we can ask him.

Regards,

Detlef

Sajen · 10th May 2012, 12:04 AM

I just have had a look to the krisdisc fro Jensen chapter 9,3 pages 25-29, special the hilt shown on page 27 let me lean towards my first guess that this hilt is most probable from Jambi.

BluErf · 10th May 2012, 02:13 PM

Very inspired work! Possibly one-of-a-kind

DAHenkel · 12th May 2012, 10:31 AM

I think it is very difficult to specifically ID this keris as coming from Jambi. At best we can say Melaka Straits region...more likely to the south...perhaps Jambi, perhaps Siak or Riau...perhaps even Palembang. Too little is known yet to be more specific than that.

But I can be specific about one thing...it is an extraordinary keris! I'm jealous...congrats!!

9th May 2012, 11:14 PM	#3
Sajen Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Germany, Dortmund Posts: 9,273	Here all hilts side by side. Before I write an answer I want to see them byself side by side. Attached Images

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9th May 2012, 07:00 PM	#2
Henk Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 1,209	I have to agree with David. It is a Bugis keris in all ways. The carving on the hilt I would call extraordinary and well executed. Never seen something like this and probably made after the wishes of the former owner.

9th May 2012, 11:22 PM	#4
Sajen Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Germany, Dortmund Posts: 9,273	Ok, after viewing them all four side by side I have to say that the hilt in question isn't so much "erected" like the three others but when I have to give an opinion about it's origin I still would guess Jambi but I don't want to put my hand in fire for my guess! At last only the carver could give a certain answer if it is Jambi in origin but I doubt that we can ask him. Regards, Detlef

10th May 2012, 12:04 AM	#5
Sajen Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Germany, Dortmund Posts: 9,273	I just have had a look to the krisdisc fro Jensen chapter 9,3 pages 25-29, special the hilt shown on page 27 let me lean towards my first guess that this hilt is most probable from Jambi.

10th May 2012, 02:13 PM	#6
BluErf Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Singapore Posts: 1,180	Very inspired work! Possibly one-of-a-kind

12th May 2012, 10:31 AM	#7
DAHenkel Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 125	I think it is very difficult to specifically ID this keris as coming from Jambi. At best we can say Melaka Straits region...more likely to the south...perhaps Jambi, perhaps Siak or Riau...perhaps even Palembang. Too little is known yet to be more specific than that. But I can be specific about one thing...it is an extraordinary keris! I'm jealous...congrats!!