Polish L-guard sword: restoration project

[Evgeny_K]

Originally Posted by fernando

Is that a mark on the blade?
Can you get a close up picture?
Marks are always interesting


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Gentelmen,
I would appreciate for any help in identifying this mark

[Ibrahiim al Balooshi]

Salaams Evgeny_K ~ I am very impressed with the result so far. This is highly specialised and advanced stuff... Now you have the blade stabilized and carbonized (will that prevent rust or is there a danger of rust continuing under the carbon? ) What is your programme of restoration for hilt and scabbard. Astonishing results so far...

I was searching for associated material and discovered a distant link to an important resource in the Forum Library on the Ethnographic that can be found by typing into search Polska szabla husarska by Wolviex .

Perhaps this can be brought onto the European for perusal please?

Thank you.

Regards,
Ibrahiim al Balooshi.

ps The stamp is upside down I think.

[Evgeny_K]

Originally Posted by Ibrahiim al Balooshi

the blade stabilized and carbonized (will that prevent rust or is there a danger of rust continuing under the carbon? )

Hello Ibrahiim,

It is not a carbonization process. When heating rusted metal in the pure carbon (charcoal) without access of oxygen occurs redox reaction (recovery of the metal from the oxide).

[ariel]

Evgeny,

Great job.

Let's not forget the way this saber looked like when it came to you: it was a deformed lump of rusty metal. No amount of "gentle" cleaning would have recovered even a trace of what it was supposed to be, or prevent any further degradation.

To be honest: the historic and artistic value of this ( or any other) sword pales in comparison to Sistine Chapel.
http://msopal29.myweb.uga.edu/BeforeandAfter.html

If works of Michelangelo and Botticelli could be aggressively restored and conserved, a similar approach to a sword is fully justified.

[Evgeny_K]

Originally Posted by Evgeny_K

Hello Ibrahiim,

It is not a carbonization process. When heating rusted metal in the pure carbon (charcoal) without access of oxygen occurs redox reaction (recovery of the metal from the oxide).

"Reanimation" of the excavated French m1777 infantry rifle:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ooH1P...0tqoEJXeOKw3E=

[ariel]

I have already expressed my view on the extent of restoration.
Now, the question.

Heating rusted metal as described is obviously fine for the rust. But what about the metal hardening and tempering? Also, the blade acquired a dull, dead sheen. Is it correctable?

[Evgeny_K]

Originally Posted by ariel

I have already expressed my view on the extent of restoration.
Now, the question.

Heating rusted metal as described is obviously fine for the rust. But what about the metal hardening and tempering? Also, the blade acquired a dull, dead sheen. Is it correctable?

I think that this method can be applied to objects that are in very poor condition. In my case, a sword has not lost springiness (I'm not going to use a sword for cutting). The surface is dull because of usage of molten paraffin (for conservation).

[Ibrahiim al Balooshi]

Originally Posted by Evgeny_K

Hello Ibrahiim,

It is not a carbonization process. When heating rusted metal in the pure carbon (charcoal) without access of oxygen occurs redox reaction (recovery of the metal from the oxide).

Salaams Evgeny_K... ~ I see... and I saw your video clip... great demonstration with your furnace... Now I understand the process. I agree with Ariel on the amazing work in this area on swords etc. that are essentially rusted and beyond normal repair and restoration. This is also demonstrated in the rusted weapon you excavated and show on your other video... I wonder if the blade can in any way be polished at this stage as you say it is drenched in preservative so it looks dull... hardly surprising ! So will the blade be able to be polished ?

Regards Ibrahiim al Balooshi.

[Evgeny_K]

Originally Posted by Ibrahiim al Balooshi

Salaams Evgeny_K... ~ I see... and I saw your video clip... great demonstration with your furnace... Now I understand the process. I agree with Ariel on the amazing work in this area on swords etc. that are essentially rusted and beyond normal repair and restoration. This is also demonstrated in the rusted weapon you excavated and show on your other video... I wonder if the blade can in any way be polished at this stage as you say it is drenched in preservative so it looks dull... hardly surprising ! So will the blade be able to be polished ?

Regards Ibrahiim al Balooshi.

Hello Ibrahiim,
It's not mine video. I've asked for the help with my sword the man, who use this method (he's on video).

[Ibrahiim al Balooshi]

Originally Posted by Evgeny_K

Hello Ibrahiim,
It's not mine video. I've asked for the help with my sword the man, who use this method (he's on video).

Salaams Evgeny_K Yes ok... Can the blade be polished up? I see that it has preservative on it... but will it be possible to polish the blade later...

Salaams Fernando ~ Thank you very much !!

Regards Ibrahiim al Balooshi.

[Evgeny_K]

Originally Posted by Ibrahiim al Balooshi

Can the blade be polished up? I see that it has preservative on it... but will it be possible to polish the blade later...

I think it could be polished)

[fernando]

Originally Posted by Ibrahiim al Balooshi

I was searching for associated material and discovered a distant link to an important resource in the Forum Library on the Ethnographic that can be found by typing into search Polska szabla husarska by Wolviex .

Perhaps this can be brought onto the European for perusal please?

Thank you.

Done.