Wilah from?

[Harley]

I am sorry Mr Maisey, but i meant the gerantim that you adjusted, without the sprout, and there was my mistake, then is was a cenangan
Maybe i start again with a new one, and make the top, middle, en bottom apart,
that way i always can change the proportions, and i think it's nicer with a difference in grain.
But we'll see.

regards,
Ben

[A. G. Maisey]

Thanks Ben. Understood.

[Jean]

Some more specimens of cenangan style hilts having some age.
Best regards

[David]

Originally Posted by Jean

Some more specimens of cenangan style hilts having some age.
Best regards

Jean, why do you believe these specimens have some age?

[Harley]

Thanks Jean,

They are much better looking then the ones i found.
In the last 2 pictures you can see swastika's in the engraving!

regards,
Ben

[Sajen]

Here two more, again taken from the book "Keris Bali Bersejarah".

[Jean]

Originally Posted by Harley

Thanks Jean,

They are much better looking then the ones i found.
In the last 2 pictures you can see swastika's in the engraving!

regards,
Ben

You are right about the engraved swastika Hindu motif which is common in Bali/ Lombok. This polychrome wooden hilt is part of an old family kris from Lombok.
The second hilt made from bone has a turtle skin cover, and the first one is made from bone and black horn.
Best regards
Jean

[Harley]

Thank you Detlef,

The one on the right is very nice!


Jean,

It was kind a strange to see that, but now i get it, thanks for the explanation!

regards,
Ben

[David]

Originally Posted by Jean

You are right about the engraved swastika Hindu motif which is common in Bali/ Lombok. This polychrome wooden hilt is part of an old family kris from Lombok.

It is my understanding that the swastika is considered a symbol of Ganesha in Hindu practice.

[Jean]

Originally Posted by David

Jean, why do you believe these specimens have some age?

Hehe, just because I bought them more than 15 years ago and they were in the same condition as today (used)... Of course I don't mean that they are old, but at least 20 to 30 years.
Regards

[David]

Originally Posted by Jean

Hehe, just because I bought them more than 15 years ago and they were in the same condition as today (used)... Of course I don't mean that they are old, but at least 20 to 30 years.
Regards

Fair enough Jean, but that would make them fairly contemporary in my book.