Sundang Bisaya

VANDOO · 25th October 2011, 02:09 AM

A VERY INTERESTING ITEM, I LIKE IT A LOT.

WHEN I FIRST LOOKED AT IT I ONLY SAW THE TOP FRONT FACE OF THE HANDLE. THE TOP PART LOOKED LIKE AN EAGLE HEAD WITH A SKULL UNDER IT. LOOKING AT THE OTHER PICTURES THIS IS NOT APPARENT AND IT IS A MORE TYPICAL MONSTER FACE.
FOR SOME REASON THIS SWORD REMINDS ME OF THOSE THAT OFTEN HAVE THE BAT EARED HEAD FOR A POMMEL. PERHAPS SOMEONE CAN COMMENT ON THIS SIMULARITY AND IF IT MAY COME FROM THE SAME REGION. OR NOT?

Rick · 25th October 2011, 02:36 AM

Currently suffering from a sinus infection, I am getting a kick out of the hilt .

3/8ths is a very hefty blade .
Interesting to have a blade profile like that and also be sharpened on both edges .
Or do you mean that it is not a chisel grind ?

Battara · 25th October 2011, 03:17 AM

Yes what an interesting piece. It may be cracked but nothing is missing!

I agree about it being Bisayan.

Congratulations! and thanks for posting.

VANDOO · 25th October 2011, 03:24 AM

THE BLADE SHAPE AND SWORD SIZE IS WHAT REMINDED ME OF THE BAT EARED DESIGNS I HAVE SEEN. THE ONES I HAVE SEEN DID NOT HAVE DOUBLE EDGED BLADES THOUGH. THATS A FIRST FOR ME ON THIS FORM.
I HAVE SEEN A FEW HILTS WHERE CARVING SIMULAR TO YOUR EXAMPLE REPRESENTED A LION SO PERHAPS ITS A LION. I WOULD THINK A DOUBLE EDGE WOULD BE USEFUL IN A WEAPON BUT NOT SO MUCH AS A TOOL.

DON'T LET AN ITEM BEING CRACKED THROW YOU OFF. MANY OF MY FRIENDS INSIST I AM CRACKED FOR COLLECTING SUCH THINGS AT ALL

ibeam · 25th October 2011, 03:55 AM

What characteristics makes this sword from Visayas?

Spunjer · 25th October 2011, 07:12 AM

dunno bro... looks bicol to me

migueldiaz · 25th October 2011, 03:34 PM

kino, salamat! spunjer, looks bicol to me, too. and moons ago, 'leaf' posted these pics here at the forum (i marked with 'x' the one that's very similar) ...

kino · 25th October 2011, 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Spunjer

dunno bro... looks bicol to me

Yeah, I knew that

Thanks, bro. I'm not too keen on the Luzon and Visayas stuff.

VANDOO was right when he said it looked similar to a Minasbad.

Rick, yes it's not a chisel ground blade.

Battara any ideas on how to arrest the progression of the crack?

ibeam · 25th October 2011, 09:10 PM

Here is another similar Bikol manasbad example

Spunger, this probably looks familiar to you

Kino, I would leave it alone. You can infill it with epoxy but its hard to match aged horn like that with grain. Thnx for sharing.

25th October 2011, 03:34 PM	#7
migueldiaz Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Manila, Phils. Posts: 1,042	kino, salamat! spunjer, looks bicol to me, too. and moons ago, 'leaf' posted these pics here at the forum (i marked with 'x' the one that's very similar) ... Attached Images

25th October 2011, 09:10 PM	#9
ibeam Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: New Jersey Posts: 134	Here is another similar Bikol manasbad example Spunger, this probably looks familiar to you Kino, I would leave it alone. You can infill it with epoxy but its hard to match aged horn like that with grain. Thnx for sharing. Attached Images

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25th October 2011, 02:09 AM	#1
VANDOO (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: OKLAHOMA, USA Posts: 3,138	A VERY INTERESTING ITEM, I LIKE IT A LOT. WHEN I FIRST LOOKED AT IT I ONLY SAW THE TOP FRONT FACE OF THE HANDLE. THE TOP PART LOOKED LIKE AN EAGLE HEAD WITH A SKULL UNDER IT. LOOKING AT THE OTHER PICTURES THIS IS NOT APPARENT AND IT IS A MORE TYPICAL MONSTER FACE. FOR SOME REASON THIS SWORD REMINDS ME OF THOSE THAT OFTEN HAVE THE BAT EARED HEAD FOR A POMMEL. PERHAPS SOMEONE CAN COMMENT ON THIS SIMULARITY AND IF IT MAY COME FROM THE SAME REGION. OR NOT?

25th October 2011, 02:36 AM	#2
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,384	Currently suffering from a sinus infection, I am getting a kick out of the hilt . 3/8ths is a very hefty blade . Interesting to have a blade profile like that and also be sharpened on both edges . Or do you mean that it is not a chisel grind ?

25th October 2011, 03:17 AM	#3
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,367	Yes what an interesting piece. It may be cracked but nothing is missing! I agree about it being Bisayan. Congratulations! and thanks for posting.

25th October 2011, 03:24 AM	#4
VANDOO (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: OKLAHOMA, USA Posts: 3,138	THE BLADE SHAPE AND SWORD SIZE IS WHAT REMINDED ME OF THE BAT EARED DESIGNS I HAVE SEEN. THE ONES I HAVE SEEN DID NOT HAVE DOUBLE EDGED BLADES THOUGH. THATS A FIRST FOR ME ON THIS FORM. I HAVE SEEN A FEW HILTS WHERE CARVING SIMULAR TO YOUR EXAMPLE REPRESENTED A LION SO PERHAPS ITS A LION. I WOULD THINK A DOUBLE EDGE WOULD BE USEFUL IN A WEAPON BUT NOT SO MUCH AS A TOOL. DON'T LET AN ITEM BEING CRACKED THROW YOU OFF. MANY OF MY FRIENDS INSIST I AM CRACKED FOR COLLECTING SUCH THINGS AT ALL

25th October 2011, 03:55 AM	#5
ibeam Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: New Jersey Posts: 134	What characteristics makes this sword from Visayas?

25th October 2011, 07:12 AM	#6
Spunjer Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Witness Protection Program Posts: 1,730	dunno bro... looks bicol to me