Indonesian ? spear for I.D. and comment

[colin henshaw]

Hi Maurice

Apologies for the late reply. Yes, this part is of much the same profile as the blade. Here is an image.

Originally Posted by Maurice

That's indeed what I was insinuating, but also some spearheads from Borneo have this shape (not only the blowpipes)...
Also I've seen silver ferrules on spears with provenance from Borneo, and also I've seen such decoration on a wooden shaft of Borneo spears before.
But I could be mistaken ofcourse. But for me it feels like it has some Borneo features...

Is the part where the spearhead is entering the ferrule (accented yellow) as flat as the blade itself?
On the dayak lances and blowpipes I've had in the past and still have, this part was also flat as the whole tang, which is attached on the wooden shaft with braided ratan...(see examples).

[Maurice]

Thanks for the image Colin.
Always different these spears to nail down the origin.

But I like to research them and "try" to find out more about them.
Thanks Henk, glad I've got you at my side now! :-)

Still vote for Borneo!

[asomotif]

Borneo ?

Hmm... I not yet convinced
Would love to see the full tang, but if it is firmly fixed please let it be.

[asomotif]

Here are 2 examples from the "Wereldmuseum" collection described as Sulawesi.
Unfortunately they have only one picture of the objects. I wonder what type of blade the one with the silver ferrule would have

[asomotif]

Ps. 2 examples next to each other.

BTW, Maurice. This is not to undermine your Borneo theory. Borneo is possible.
But especially this silver work can be found throughout the Archipelago.

[Sajen]

Originally Posted by asomotif

Ps. 2 examples next to each other.

BTW, Maurice. This is not to undermine your Borneo theory. Borneo is possible.
But especially this silver work can be found throughout the Archipelago.

Hi Willem,

well done research. The affinity of the ferrules is amazing.

Regards,

Detlef

[Maurice]

Originally Posted by asomotif

Ps. 2 examples next to each other.

BTW, Maurice. This is not to undermine your Borneo theory. Borneo is possible.
But especially this silver work can be found throughout the Archipelago.

Yes almost identical:-)
But as I said before it isn't dajak!
Also I've seen lances with provenance from Borneo, with silver ferrules ornamented like these....
But what's make me saying that Collin's lance could be Borneo is because of the iron blade and the wooden shaft.
I've seen Borneo spears with identical carved circles in the wooden shaft as Colin's.....

I like these kind of puzzles....

Maurice

[asomotif]

I recently bought a borneo spear.

Slightly different metal decoration and unfortunately not silver.
The spearhead is layered forging. probably imported from Java.

The shaft is dark hard wood of the quality we see in blowpipes.
It has a simple decoration on the shaft.

Nice for comparrison.

Best regards,
Willem