Identification Request; Iron Pike or Flag Topper

[kronckew]

thanks for the clarification, fernando. doug's photos scream 'weapon' to me.

just for interest & comparison, this is the rough forged snapshot of the modern made lance point i posted:

[katana]

Seems very similar to something I have .....

http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...ighlight=lance

Regards David

[David R]

Looks very like an old Indian lance point I have in my collection. When obsolete what better use for one of these than as a flag staff finial. Looks like it was a nice high class piece back in the day.

[tom hyle]

Look inside the hole of the socket; can you see whether it was curled/hammerd together, etc?

[dketch]

Originally Posted by tom hyle

Look inside the hole of the socket; can you see whether it was curled/hammerd together, etc?

Thanks for the question, Tom. Will take a look and post what I find. Not having a "weapons" background or expertise as many of you do, what specifically should I be looking for, Tom?

[dketch]

Originally Posted by tom hyle

Look inside the hole of the socket; can you see whether it was curled/hammerd together, etc?

Thanks Again Tom,

Ok, I looked in the socket hole; there is no sign of a seam and the inside is much rougher to the touch than the outside of the pike (and the metal thickness is a little inconsistant around the outside/edges), so I am assuming it was hammered or poured as a single piece (?) although for as heavy and thick as it is, it would have been a tough go at it I would think.

Any other suggestions / recommendations?

- Doug

[dketch]

Originally Posted by David R

Looks very like an old Indian lance point I have in my collection. When obsolete what better use for one of these than as a flag staff finial. Looks like it was a nice high class piece back in the day.

Cool, Thanks for your input David. I appreciate it.

[dketch]

Originally Posted by David R

Looks very like an old Indian lance point I have in my collection. When obsolete what better use for one of these than as a flag staff finial. Looks like it was a nice high class piece back in the day.

Cool, Thanks for your input David. I appreciate it.

[dketch]

Originally Posted by katana

Seems very similar to something I have .....

http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...ighlight=lance

Regards David

Thanks All for your input. David, I just looked up the photos you posted of your weapon and I have to say I am amazed at the similarities with myne....

[dketch]

Originally Posted by katana

Seems very similar to something I have .....

http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...ighlight=lance

Regards David

David, do you think my pike was built in the same area or timeframe as the one you have? If so, any idea as to when / where it was made?

[David R]

Looked through the Royal Armouries Indian collection again, the balance of probability is an Indian Lance head of the 18th 19th C. Same for Katana's posted piccy. The engraved decoration and the hollow ground faces looks pretty diagnostic to me. They didn't need to be super sharp, you are backing them up with a galloping horse after all, and to punch through armour a rigid blade section is more important.

[dketch]

Originally Posted by David R

Looked through the Royal Armouries Indian collection again, the balance of probability is an Indian Lance head of the 18th 19th C. Same for Katana's posted piccy. The engraved decoration and the hollow ground faces looks pretty diagnostic to me. They didn't need to be super sharp, you are backing them up with a galloping horse after all, and to punch through armour a rigid blade section is more important.

Very cool. Thank You, David!

[dketch]

Originally Posted by kronckew

thanks for the clarification, fernando. doug's photos scream 'weapon' to me.

just for interest & comparison, this is the rough forged snapshot of the modern made lance point i posted:

Thanks for your input. The photo you posted looks very similar to the piece I have no doubt.