Metal wrapped javanese hilt

tunggulametung · 8th February 2011, 01:30 PM

Spot on! Example C is what I'm trying to explain in my previous post. That collar type might be one of the good hint then. Thank you for providing the examples I know I can learn from you!

I should have look more into example A (this is where I mixed), but just to share a view (as how you mention they are often made for Surkarta), I know for once they are supplied from Jogja (recent made) but that just one time experience and may not the case in the past or all the time and if I remember correct that is one with flat/angled opening (not curved).

Thanks again.

A. G. Maisey · 8th February 2011, 10:11 PM

I'm not all that sure that a lis can be taken as a definite Banyumas origin indicator, as Madura and North Coast pendok also are sometimes found with lis.

The relationship between Banyumas and Solo pendok is that old Banyumas pendok have often been squared off at the top so that they can be used on a Solo wrongko.

Most affordable recently made pendok come from Imogiri, and are embossed. They are supplied in all styles and sold wherever keris are sold.

tunggulametung · 10th February 2011, 02:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by A. G. Maisey

I'm not all that sure that a lis can be taken as a definite Banyumas origin indicator, as Madura and North Coast pendok also are sometimes found with lis.

Yes I'm aware of that. Thank you for your note

Sajen · 12th February 2011, 03:43 PM

Thank you all very much for this very interesting discussion!

8th February 2011, 01:30 PM	#1
tunggulametung Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 238	Spot on! Example C is what I'm trying to explain in my previous post. That collar type might be one of the good hint then. Thank you for providing the examples I know I can learn from you! I should have look more into example A (this is where I mixed), but just to share a view (as how you mention they are often made for Surkarta), I know for once they are supplied from Jogja (recent made) but that just one time experience and may not the case in the past or all the time and if I remember correct that is one with flat/angled opening (not curved). Thanks again. Last edited by tunggulametung; 8th February 2011 at 02:16 PM.

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8th February 2011, 10:11 PM	#2
A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 7,019	I'm not all that sure that a lis can be taken as a definite Banyumas origin indicator, as Madura and North Coast pendok also are sometimes found with lis. The relationship between Banyumas and Solo pendok is that old Banyumas pendok have often been squared off at the top so that they can be used on a Solo wrongko. Most affordable recently made pendok come from Imogiri, and are embossed. They are supplied in all styles and sold wherever keris are sold.

12th February 2011, 03:43 PM	#4
Sajen Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Germany, Dortmund Posts: 9,221	Thank you all very much for this very interesting discussion!