Asking for help in keris identification

A. G. Maisey · 26th January 2011, 03:22 AM

I am very seldom very definite in giving an opinion from photos that I see on a computer screen. Especially one such as I am looking at at the moment.

However, in this instance I am quite confident in stating most definitely that these three keris have not been produced in the period after WWII.

By "keris" I mean the blade.

The complete weapon has dress to also take account of , and although this appears to have some age, and is 100% traditional in both style and execution, I cannot give an opinion on age from the photos.

As David has remarked, the gold kinatah work may have been renewed, but this is more a matter of maintenance than of falsification --- and the current prices for any sort of gold kinatah work here in Jawa are so outrageous that you should feel very happy to have a keris with a little bit of gold on it, no matter when it was put there.

simatua · 27th January 2011, 08:11 PM

These 3 keris look old to me, so i agree looking at these foto's they are all real & old keris, and not to be classified as keris Kamardikan ( freedom period of Indonesia after '45 )

About the dresses waranka, ukiran etc
1. seems old and authentic to me
2. waranka seems to be made more recently, from a lighter, and younger timoho, darkened up. looking at the proportions and model. (These changes are not unusual, and does notting off from the keris)
3. original and authentic materials, but mendak is Djogya style in stead of a Solo type.

....3 Nice ones

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26th January 2011, 03:22 AM	#1
A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 7,154	I am very seldom very definite in giving an opinion from photos that I see on a computer screen. Especially one such as I am looking at at the moment. However, in this instance I am quite confident in stating most definitely that these three keris have not been produced in the period after WWII. By "keris" I mean the blade. The complete weapon has dress to also take account of , and although this appears to have some age, and is 100% traditional in both style and execution, I cannot give an opinion on age from the photos. As David has remarked, the gold kinatah work may have been renewed, but this is more a matter of maintenance than of falsification --- and the current prices for any sort of gold kinatah work here in Jawa are so outrageous that you should feel very happy to have a keris with a little bit of gold on it, no matter when it was put there.

27th January 2011, 08:11 PM	#2
simatua Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 69	These 3 keris look old to me, so i agree looking at these foto's they are all real & old keris, and not to be classified as keris Kamardikan ( freedom period of Indonesia after '45 ) About the dresses waranka, ukiran etc 1. seems old and authentic to me 2. waranka seems to be made more recently, from a lighter, and younger timoho, darkened up. looking at the proportions and model. (These changes are not unusual, and does notting off from the keris) 3. original and authentic materials, but mendak is Djogya style in stead of a Solo type. ....3 Nice ones