Shadow Keris

Gustav · 9th November 2010, 09:06 PM

I probably wouldn't call this Keris contemporary (if contemporary means the last 20 or 30 years). I am very curios if David could tell us something more about it.

Sajen · 9th November 2010, 09:40 PM

David, congratulations to this keris, equal if contemporary or old, just beautiful!

David · 10th November 2010, 12:11 AM

Not sure what more i can tell anyone Gustav. I pretty much lucked into this keris shooting a collection of weapons that someone in my area was trying to get rid off. JHe needed images for internet sales. He had a number of keris and i got some in exchange for the work and also bought others at some good prices. I have many more Java/Bali keris in my collection so the Malay pieces are more a mystery to me, but i do know quality when i see it.

As for age i wouldn't call this contemporary either, though i also would question if it is 100 years old. So i might call it "old", but not yet antique. It shows some age,patina and slight pitting and the I have always thought that pre-WW2 was a good assessment, but i might be wrong.

BluErf · 10th November 2010, 12:56 PM

I agree that this keris is not contemporary. The smiths in Malaysia has lost the ability to produce anything even close to this now. It's a beautiful keris, and age is one thing we cannot fault it on; it will age nicely.

Alam Shah · 10th November 2010, 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by BluErf

I agree that this keris is not contemporary. The smiths in Malaysia has lost the ability to produce anything even close to this now. It's a beautiful keris, and age is one thing we cannot fault it on; it will age nicely.

Prior to contrary belief, it is not true Kai Wee. Through WW2 smiths in Pattani did continue keris production in remote regions, although in smaller scale.. slowed down during WW2 but increased production since.. info from various sources.

BluErf · 11th November 2010, 07:12 AM

I see new kerises from the North, but they are just KLOs made with power tools from metal blanks. Haven't seen a really good quality new keris from the area yet. If there are, I would be most happy for the future of Malay kerises!

laEspadaAncha · 12th November 2010, 03:23 AM

Don't spend too much time in this forum, but the thread title intrigued me. David, that's one stunning photograph and you are correct in that it would make for an eye-catching cover.

PenangsangII · 26th November 2010, 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by BluErf

I see new kerises from the North, but they are just KLOs made with power tools from metal blanks. Haven't seen a really good quality new keris from the area yet. If there are, I would be most happy for the future of Malay kerises!

I cant agree more.

In recent years, due to exposure from electronic media, the interest on keris has improved tremendously, but this supposedly good development also had invited unscrupulous makers and dealers alike. Thus the KLOs are flooding the Malaysian keris market.

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9th November 2010, 09:06 PM	#1
Gustav Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 1,295	I probably wouldn't call this Keris contemporary (if contemporary means the last 20 or 30 years). I am very curios if David could tell us something more about it.

9th November 2010, 09:40 PM	#2
Sajen Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Germany, Dortmund Posts: 9,277	David, congratulations to this keris, equal if contemporary or old, just beautiful!

10th November 2010, 12:11 AM	#3
David Keris forum moderator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Nova Scotia Posts: 7,230	Not sure what more i can tell anyone Gustav. I pretty much lucked into this keris shooting a collection of weapons that someone in my area was trying to get rid off. JHe needed images for internet sales. He had a number of keris and i got some in exchange for the work and also bought others at some good prices. I have many more Java/Bali keris in my collection so the Malay pieces are more a mystery to me, but i do know quality when i see it. As for age i wouldn't call this contemporary either, though i also would question if it is 100 years old. So i might call it "old", but not yet antique. It shows some age,patina and slight pitting and the I have always thought that pre-WW2 was a good assessment, but i might be wrong.

10th November 2010, 12:56 PM	#4
BluErf Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Singapore Posts: 1,180	I agree that this keris is not contemporary. The smiths in Malaysia has lost the ability to produce anything even close to this now. It's a beautiful keris, and age is one thing we cannot fault it on; it will age nicely.

11th November 2010, 07:12 AM	#6
BluErf Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Singapore Posts: 1,180	I see new kerises from the North, but they are just KLOs made with power tools from metal blanks. Haven't seen a really good quality new keris from the area yet. If there are, I would be most happy for the future of Malay kerises!

12th November 2010, 03:23 AM	#7
laEspadaAncha Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 608	Don't spend too much time in this forum, but the thread title intrigued me. David, that's one stunning photograph and you are correct in that it would make for an eye-catching cover.