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|  30th June 2025, 03:00 AM | #4 | 
| Member Join Date: May 2006 
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			Gustav, I did not reply to your questions immediately because I wanted to speak with two Balinese friends who know far more than I do about Balinese keris. I now have their input. In your posted image, the keris on the right does look as if it could be Balinese, however, I have never seen this cup-selut arrangement on any Balinese keris. Both my friends were of the opinion that this cup-selut feature was definitely not Balinese, one suggested that somebody who did not understand Balinese keris culture might have had it fitted. There are some Balinese uwer that have a rather short stem. This short stem is intended to fit up inside the hilt. I have seen similar cup-stem fittings on South Sumatera keris. I cannot recall having seen this cup-stem feature, nor anything like it, on Javanese keris, East Javanese nor otherwise. I have seen a cup fitting without stem on both Bugis & Peninsula keris, one of these cup fittings was a silver coin hammered to a cup shape to fit the bottom of the hilt. | 
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